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Yeah it's so true and obvious for anyone who isn't wilfuly ignorant of how idol worship and society operates.

True to an extent, but like te amo barca said, this is straying dangerously into incel and red pill chat now lol. We definitely don't wanna associate ourselves with those types.

Did he say the same stuff? He must have good opinions. I know he's Scottish, like me. A lot of guys here much prefer Messi to Ronaldo. Other than two or three oddballs everyone I know thinks Ronaldo isn't close to Messi.

Yeah I was gonna say that too, a lot of guys look average. So maybe the relative scarcity is what attracts women. Of course there's also subjectivity to take into account - some guys are close enough in looks that one woman will prefer guy a and the second woman guy b. When it comes to Wayne...

Nobody should be worshipped for any reason, imo. We are all human - we have to eat, go to the toilet, we are all flawed. There are some amazing people out there, but worshipping another person is a slippery slope and likely to lead to disappointment.

I know it is, I am just explaining what he meant. I won't be picking the faves every time either. I thought Austria would get something against NL and they did.

He's right about a lot of that. I would only say that extremely handsome men (Brad Pitt, Jamie Dornan, Cavill, Jensen Ackles, The Hemsworth brothers for example) are worshipped for their looks too lol. In fact, women seem to obsess over handsome men even more than men obsess over beautiful women.

I think he's saying that if Italy win, it was expected anyway. Almost like if Switzerland win you get EXTRA kudos than usual, because most expected Italy to win. But if you were wrong, you were brave enough to stick your neck out.

Another thing I believe is that he rides on Messi's coattails as a player - people compare them all the time because of the media created rivalry. They think if he can keep up with Messi in stats (as he does) that means they're on the same level. In truth Messi is much much better when it comes...

I agree with all that. I really only have him about 8th or 9th due to peer pressure from others. Based on pure talent I wouldn't have him in the top 100 players of all time - but his (out of context) stats, trophies and longevity given him a boost I suppose. Like someone else said - he has...

Lol at the description of 'aftertiming' 'AfterTiming When a person claims to be on the good side of a bet or prediction after the result without proving any evidence before or during the event. For this sub you may not make the bet, but you may give another degenerate gambler a good idea, he...

That made me laugh for some reason. His eyes are very far apart. He's like the anti-Ryan Gosling in eye spacing.

Yeah I predicted that too, and Fati told me off lol. I do think the Swiss can beat them though. I wouldn't even consider it an upset either. Italy have regressed and the Swiss are a solid side.

No problem. I agree that will be a very balanced game. Should be quite tight.

You could be right on England-Slovakia, as a Scot I hope you are - the sooner they're out the better. You meaan France-Belgium? Portugal and France don't play each other this round. Or do you mean you predicted both their games to be 2-2?

Possibly yes. But I just have a feeling they might do a little better in this round. I did consider 1-0 or 2-1, though.

Quite fitting that The Boys season 4 is airing during this tournament. It has been said many times but he's definitely like Homelander.

I agree, but funnily enough that often happens during the club season lol. People watch four games a day Saturday and Sunday from different leagues. But there's much more choice there.

They beat (drew with then penalties) France in R16 last time. There's always an 'upset' and Swiss defeating Italians might be it (not that I consider it as such). I may change to penalties or Italy win still, but I just have a hunch. yeah France-Belgium could be a tight one, hence me only going...

Early predictions for the R16 It is sort of bugging me that I haven't picked any draws (games that go to penalties are recorded as a draw in this prediction game, extra time counts even if the game is a draw after 90 mins so long as there's a winner after 120) but I will probably make some...