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He's a good player, nobody disputes he has talent, it's the amount of talent that is disputed... ...but his buying of his own over the top hype as in the above signifies a lack of maturity/intelligence. The user Don implied something similar on a previous page, as did I.

I like Fati and think Temptation is a knob. But they do Wum all over the place. I should just ignore it but it emboldens them if you ignore it.

Except his playmaking and dribbling are light years worse than many players. What kind of wanky Venn diagram tries to claim Ronaldo crosses over with Messi and Maradona in dribbling and Zidane in playmaking (and Messi and Maradona should be in the other two too, or playmaking for Maradona if not...

Exactly, his fans are insane. Ronaldo gets a VERY easy ride from the media and press. All he has to do is score a strike in the box after being terrible all game and they froth at the mouth over him. Even watching games over the years, the focusing in on Ronaldo at the anthems or in the lineups...

Platini scored 9 in 5 games in one tournament, and you're crowing about his Euros 'records', which are all the result of him playing far more games than everyone else. He's quantity over quality. Portugal were also abysmal in 2016 and the flukiest winner of this tournament in decades. Three...

Never seen the media lick anyone's hole like they do 'CR7', they even artificially put him in a debate with Messi. Yet he and his fans think the system is against him :ROFLMAO:This is a guy who won a Ballon d'or after voting was closed because he and his fans cried. He's very fortunate to be...

Lol thanks. I just never supported anyone else other than my local team, and won't change at 42. But for what it's worth, Guardiola's Barca is the best side I have ever seen (club or national) and played the type of football I wish my team I play with could fully emulate at our infinitely lower...

There seems to be a disconnect on the forum and with some football fans in general... there's guys like myself and Don, soul etc, who want to see great play throughout a game and aren't fooled by moments. We know moment aren't something to build a platform on long-term, unless you are Real...

Bold is what sickens me most about footballers. Utter vermin - arrogant, lacking in self-awareness wankers - like him and Ronaldo and the entire England team today buying their own hype and thinking they are far better than they are, telling smart people - who have them pegged for what they are...

Not sure I would go as far as you with the all-time projections but he's easily better than Dembele and Saka already. Saka is as classic an example of 'overrated English player' you will ever see - a flatters to deceive bottle merchant like his club. Anyone who has a clue can see Yamal is...

This guy gets it. Lots of good posts from him. Bellingham is even being criticised online for his arrogance. "As I have said before, he’s so far up his own arse he can barely run, much less play actual football most of the time now, which was shown tonight. “Who else?” What a twat. He has...

Ah right, sorry, I didn't follow the entire thread or the conversation before it.

It's Sunday 14th July.

Love to see you quote where I said he's playing better than any of those four. Another guy making up straw men to try and strengthen his already flimsy point. He didn't play excellently or anything, and he lost the ball a few times, but overall he played his part and was fine. He was likely...

Was really hoping he would score and make history - chances will likely be more of a premium against Germany, so if he gets an opening he has to try and take it. A couple went just by the post today, or were saved. That cross was amazing though, and from there, Spain never looked back.

Thanks, and yeah maybe those three are close too. But I just feel nobody has the cohesion and synergy Spain does. It's a remnant from the Barca days - they've taken that philosophy and it has never left them, long after Xavi, Iniesta etc have departed.

Carrying an injury and actually did fairly well when he was on, but only Morata is worse than him. And, for that matter, Morata pressed really well in the second half and contributed to Spain being able to be so dominant. You're right about Olmo though, but that's all you're right about. Edit -...

Absolutely loved that little bit of skill and finish.

They did win easily. Georgia took a shock lead and had a few moments but Spain were in control from start to finish :ROFLMAO:

They're a serious team, really impressive. The pressing, the way they squeeze the space and smother the other team. The little triangles and combinations in midfield, how well drilled they are. They look like the only team in international football who play like a well-oiled club side. And now...