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Fair enough. Best of luck to your teams tonight. Though I do like Austria and how they play so personally want them to go through. Nothing against Turkey, though. 'Same with Scots. With the exception of Gato' Just seen this. Hahah thanks. We are rubbish though and will remain so - the coaching...

No problem. I know you are Dutch. Do you have some Turkish blood too? Just the way you were talking on earlier pages, wasn't sure if you were having a laugh.

I am going 2-1 NED and 3-1 AUT Both after 90 mins. Have to make the most of these two games tonight as there will be two more rest days tomorrow and Thursday.

Big incentive for Brazil or Colombia to top the group tonight and avoid Uruguay for one more round (Unless Panama do the unthinkable).

They're a class act.

Fell asleep at the 86th minute (they changed the camera angle on my provider in the second half to a much lower angle, must have been receiving complaints) but it seems that USA are out. That is a bitter pill for them to swallow; to finish below Panama. Aside from Argentina in the top half, the...

Looks quite attacking from the Dutch. Might not work out that way though. Romania have some decent players tbh.

They had some good tournaments and some poor ones. Personally I thought a few of their players were a little overhyped anyway (not De Bruyne or Hazard) so I don't really count it against them that much. Of course, by far their biggest issue was having a clown like Martinez for a coach. The...

They joke but a lot of far-right types would love a squad of all white players/indigenous French, even if it means a France far less likely to win this tournament.

Netherlands don't have the attacking talents (on paper, Simons is quite good) that England or Portugal do, so hopefully Romania will open up a bit more than Slovenia did, and not be pegged back like Slovakia were after they scored. I was very impressed with how Slovenia defended though, so maybe...

The thing is, and putting aside all my hatred for him. It has become pathetic now. He's been one of the best players in the world, but knowing when your time is up is such a great quality. He could have retired a few years ago and been remembered better as a player. Now he's becoming a meme and...

Impossible? Penalties are about 80-20 in the taker's favour lol. 'Impossible'.

Created the goal against Switzerland too.

Yeah, but against a top team or player, anything can happen in a moment in the QFs, no matter how bad the level of play has been so far. Mbappe for example could still do something spectacular.

and the World Cup.

Yeah fair points that, I think 70s is when football became high quality. Saying that, guys like Pele dominated so much in the 60s that you'd imagine they'd still be brilliant now. Di Stefano would be in my top 5-10 too. Above C Ronaldo anyway :cool:

Hope Max Araujo is ok, looked horrible. Did he swallow his tongue? Rochet and Balogun injured now too. Looked an awfully bad collision.

For someone who doesn't like heights ie me, this camera angle is far too high. I don't mind Camp Nou one but this is way too high.

I guess that's a fair point on Beckenbauer. I would say that he revolutioised the sweeper/libero role though which would count for a lot. But I still understand. Quite surprising that about Cruyff. From what I have seen he was a brilliant player, plus he is a pioneer as a coach. I guess...

Yeah Zico is absolutely underrated as fuck in the all-time debate, a true genius. Four best Brazilian players of all time are Pele, Zico, Ronaldo 9 and Garrincha for me. Zico and Platini were recognised as the best players in the world until a certain young Maradona came onto the scene.