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Exactly. Especially the slow mo point. But it should never have been called to VAR in the first place. If he had given it on pitch, I wouldn't have expected them to overturn the decision. It's not clear and obvious enough for them to send him to the screen (even if I believe it is not a...

I am thinking I reacted a bit too strongly initially (though I still think it wasn't one), but to be fair still images can be deceiving. But the ball is gone and the contact (in real time) doesn't look that bad to me. If the laws say that is a penalty to me the law needs redefined. But i's...

I admit, I have been worried since Bellingham's late goal against Slovakia. Like you say, they have players in the team and on the bench who can pull something out of the hat - the further they go the more likely they will get thieir act together, as they did for the first half. They might even...

I think I'd prefer Colombia as (and it might not work out this way in practice) I think it'd be a better football match. Uruguay are not as good to watch as Colombia and would make it more of a battle. But ARG-URU is a legendary rivalry and would be a great match for the reasons you state.

Maybe Kane is playing 4D chess...

Yeah by penalty decision I really mean VAR with the clear and obvious thing. They should have stuck with his original decision, which as you say was reasonable. Some of his decisions for free-kicks etc were poor though imo, and that's on him. Agree with most of that mate. As for the penalty -...

Hahahah. Good one.

They were definitely better tonight than NED - much more so in the first half. I was impressed by them in the first half I must say. The worry is they approach that level against ESP and make it a tough game for Spain. Hopefully they play more like against Slovakia and Spain rim them a la Italy...

The nightmare scenario is that Spain underperform or England drag them down to their level. Or Spain are brilliant but can't finish and England win with a goal off Stones's bollock.

Fair enough, definitely as you are a good lad. Looking back on it maybe it was my anti-England goggles. I still don't think it was a penalty but I have seen worse so maybe 'shocking' was the wrong word to use to describe it. I still wouldn't have given it though, and maybe you'll agree that it...

I never said it was the ref's fault - Dutch weren't good at all for most of the game, Koeman's decision making is questionable, and I agree with all you say. Just saying the ref definitely didn't help matters either.

To be fair though, the game was even in the second half, but based on the first half, England are deservedly through. Though I still think Netherlands were a bit better than them in the tournament before tonight. If Spain turn up though they should win.

Ref was shocking too. I am not gonna get into the penalty again but he penalised the Dutch for winning the ball and getting through on goal a couple of times. And just generally let snide fouls by England go. He's German so probably anti-Dutch :lol: Though they're not fond of England either lol.

Original prediction was 2-1 England, altered to 1-1. Why don't I just stick with original scores. I did last night and I was rewarded for it (2-1 Spain).

I just meant that Griezmann has been more important than Mbappe over the years, and now he's had a bad tournament, it showed in the French team - he's been great in most of his previous tournaments. Mbappe has been even worse than him this tournament though - Mbappe has been poor in both his...

Beautiful goal by Watkins to be fair, after England declined generally in the second half due to the Dutch reinforcing in midfield. I have always liked Watkins as a player. It was a great goal as I said. But ffs, please come on Spain.

Yeah once he goes to the monitor it is 99 percent being given. I agree it's studs up, but it still feels soft really. Maybe that is modern football though. To be fair I get annoyed when penalties get given for tiny handballs or slight brushes on players in the box when they have nowhere near a...

No surprise - assume it is for Trippier. He has been their weak link this half.

Grealish is a knob, but I agree he should be playing at this tournament. He had a bad season though and has been dropped because of form. But he offers something in tight spaces and playmaking that a lot of Ennglish players don't.

Think this is more of it; the rules are so unclear and ambiguous and it is made up as they go along. Some VAR teams call for a review and some don't on an incident like that. It's just pointless trying to understand what is a penalty and what isn't these days when the laws are so unclear and...