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Also, didn't Casemiro get in the team of the year over Rodri that season? :lol: These awards are often bollocks, accept it. Stop clinging to them like a bunny boiler clings to a man.] Man United get more hype than man City, they're the establishment club in England and there will always be a...

You're 39 steps behind. Short list. Were other players on that list who performed as well as him? Or are they not as hyped in the media?

Stats, not overall performance. He scored goals even in games where he was otherwise on the periphery. I thought from your comments last night you don't just care about stats? Or is it only when it's about Raphinha that stats don't matter? Players who voted Fernandes better than dalot last...

Anyway Jammy son, I take it Rashy deserved the 22-23 'Fans POTY' over Haaland and De Bruyne? Him winning that totally didn't make an absolute cunt of that award and prove it's just about tribalism Cheers.

Sorry for not having a photographic memory and memorising every point you or I have made in the last 7/8 pages or whatever. He was good STATSWISE, not as good as you are making out in terms of overall performance. The end.

said he was poor harshly and for effect. He was good (overall game was poor but players like him are all about stats), but more like a 7.5/10. You seem to think he was a 9.5 though and one of the best players in the world that season, reaching Salah like levels. No. And even if he was...

The point is these people voted for him over Haaland and De Bruyne, who were clearly far better than him in even his best ever season of 22-23 - they're either clueless or biased, more likely the latter. And again, look at the battering Rashford was taking for his performances that season...

Anyway continue to cling to it, Maybe being voted 'Fans POTY 22-23' will inspire Rashford to never before seen levels and he will lead United to the PL trophy over Guardiola's boys this season (y)

It is though. You are arguing for the accuracy and competency of an award that said Rashford outperformed Haaland and De Bruyne in 22-23. Says it all. Get real - it's a fucking joke of an award with fans of clubs voting for their own players. man U have more fans than City.

So Rashy deserved Fans POTY in 22-23? And that backs up the accuracy of the award? Good stuff mate

Oh and feel free to tell me who you think deserved the 22-23 Fans Player of the Year between Rashy, Erling and Kev. Was it, indeed, Rashy then?

Fair enough laddie - I admit I almost burst a blood vessel with some of your Lampard-like deflections and twisting my words into straw men. But overall it's been fun. Thanks for the laugh.

Well, for me, anyone who 'gambles' on Rashford is a fool and is wasting their money. I never even mentioned Raphinha, I don't rate him. Sure Rashford might be better than him but it's not gonna move the needle at all.

He's just not as good as you are willing him to be. It's really that simple. And if you ever (in this hypothetical scenario you brought up from nowhere which began this debate) bought Rashford, he would be a drain in wages and wouldn't be worth it on the park. It's a pointless debate though as...

And you still haven't answered my question if Rashford deserves 'Fans POTY' over Haaland and De Bruyne in 22-23. Bringing up the veracity of that award. I have a feeling you will never answer it to be honest.

He won't though. that is the point. It was a player playing well above his true level (in stats). That is abundantly obvious when you look at the rest of his career and his body of work. He's a stats player first and foremost. He has never broken 20 PL goals and in all likelihood never will...

Fair enough. I believe you are wrong, and his vast inconsistency and unprofessionalism over the years, as well as his and Man United's struggles and failure to ever get near competing for the PL and CL would appear to back me. Let's revisit this if Rashford is ever a top performer in a team...

Mate there's a thread on Redcafe from like 2017 with United fans saying Rashford is as good as Mbappe :lol: They have negative fans like every club, like there are on here. But if you read Redcafe and Red Issue you will also see a lot of top red fans who make excuses for all their players and...

It's a Scottish thing.

It depends who you talk to. Certain segments slaughter him - certain ones are his mouthpiece eg that imbecile Henry Winter. Ultimately a lot of people still see him as 'potential' - despite being 27 in a couple of months - and think he has far more ability than he does. These Man United fans...