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Yeah I figured that is why you were doing it. You're a good and caring lad and would never be hurtful or cruel unnecessarily. You're one of the best guys on here personality-wise.

Eriksen, Casemiro, Fernandes That midfield has no legs. This could be bad for United.

It's harsh to use the word 'ugly' for anyone, but yeah I get you.

There's lots of handsome bald guys though. And bald guys who are more handsome than Ferran (though granted he's quite a good looking lad). Not the bald guy in that photo, but still.

Messi is less flashy and more economical, I don't know if that makes him 'less naturally talented', it's a hard call. But respect your picks. I'd probably add him in with those two as the most naturally talented ever.

He's one of them whose life after football causes him to take a hit from his playing days i.e. he's been generally an average coach, so people think of him as a clown, rather than the world-class defender and FK taker he was. It's like Platini - one of the greatest players of all time but now...

Aye for that goal notice how Xavi moves his body and the ball to the left - that drags the United defenders that half yard left and opens up the space for Pedro. Then - at just the right moment - Xavi releases the pass into him with the outside of his right foot. I think it's Vidic who almost...

Yeah fati, as you say Ten Hag has this knack of getting a result when you least expect it. Plus every time I back United to lose, they win lol. Not altering my prediction now though.

He was an otherworldly genius. He and Messi are the two most gifted players ever for me, with Pele just behind them. Then there's plenty of other absolute geniuse after that. But Messi and Maradona are aliens.

I am surprised you put Ronaldo above Maradona, but it's more to do with his professionalism and drive. Purely on talent Maradona takes it easily. I get that. As per second paragraph - that's a fair point. I'd argue though that being as fucked up as he was and still a genius is a testament to...

I just don't know how you can say he has 'the best weak foot ever' when he refused to even try left-footer free kicks, never took pens with it, never dribbles with it with consecutive touches, never played 50 yards passes with it (he doesn't do this with his right either) and - in general - he...

Anyway good discussion with good points, on both sides of the debate

Fair enough but you're looking through a modern lens. Tbh just because players are fitter now doesn't mean they're better or smarter. I see loads of clownish defending now too. No denying there was poor defending back then too. The strongest defensive league was Serie A of the 80s. Modern...

I have watched Ronaldo his entire career and never ever ever saw him take a free-kick with his left foot. I think you just made that up lol. Unless you mean he COULD do it, which obviously isn't true as he'd have done it given he hogs all the FKs. He let left-footed Bale take a lot on the right...

As I said in my post above mate - his weak foot is only great in one situation - shooting at goal. Long or short passing, free kicks, dribbling, penalties, no. He doesn't use his left for any of these. Surely if he had the best weak foot ever we'd see him take free-kicks suiting a left footer...

Yeah indeed. Talent goes a long way. Sometimes I feel people go overboard with the 'everything is harder now' spiel. Some of the defending now is diabolical yet people talk like we are living in the era of defensive masterclasses. Like you say, they'd be top players in whatever era. They're...

Glad to hear it mate. They're corrupt and plenty of them are evil.

Another tremendous post. Obviously the idea is that players of the past are given equal footing with players of now in medical advancement, nutrition etc. Then their natural talent does the talking.

Tremendous post.

Most people with credibility know Messi-Maradona-Pele are the holy trinity. It's generally only the gen Z kids or oddities who think Pele isn't there or that C Ronaldo is in the top 2 and Pele not in top five, etc. You get decent lads like Horatio who might not have him top three but it's rare...