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Beast in scoring, not as a pure footballer. we have all seen players who genuinely were 'beasts' in their prime, trying to argue Lewy is that level is laughable.

Well you brought up Suarez and implied Lewy is better cos he has more CL goals. If it walks and quacks like a duck...

Yeah it's ad hominem to say he was overrated. That sums up Lewa - if you don't lick his arsehole it is a personal attack. His touch was erratic in his prime, I watched him. Yes he has good touches, like all top players, but he also had plenty bad. But you'll never find videos of his awful...

It always comes back to stats with guys like you. Because outside of scoring, he isn't special at all. Suarez is a far more talented pure footballer. You are obviously a stats merchant. Also, you obviously have the attitude that players will automatically get better stats in a better team...

I mean as soon as someone starts pulling out the YouTube videos I know to ignore them. Rookie error. Those videos can make guys like Heskey and Garnacho look like superstars.

You think Youtube videos - which highlight good and omit bad - prove anything. The guy was a flat track bully who beat up on a one team league and consistently failed in Europe.

Goes to show how overrated he was in his prime in the BayernLiga as a flat track bully. I am sure you could make an even longer video of his woeful touches, if so inclined. I am not getting into a debate with a guy who thinks you can prove a player's ability with highlights videos.

Lol Youtube videos are very misleading. They only take good moments. Do better.

Some guys in here are already trying to gaslight us into thinking prime Lewy in a one-team league was a hold up and creative marvel. it's really pathetic.

I think prime Kane is better than prime Lewy, yet people think Kane has never been fit to lace Lewy's boots. That's why i find him very overrated.

I disagree. We obviously have different standards and definitions of being a monster at hold up (though it was good) and first touch. I have never thought he has a great first touch.

There's simply no defence for that pass. A player with his reputation is clearly overrated if he cannot make that pass (and it isn't the first time). It isn't even a hard pass - I make harder ones at my infinitely lower level.

It's not that his form has disappeared, it's just that outside of scoring, he's never been special or particularly good. His hold up play can be good but it is very erratic and only getting worse at his age. He will cost Barca at some point or moments in future ties, I am almost certain of it.

R9 is one of the most underrated players of the past (along with Zidane). Clueless kids of this era think guys like Neymar, Lewy are better and that R9 couldn't lace C Ronaldo's boots. You really had to watch him at the time to know his brilliance could not be captured by stats (though he still...

Great comment, Tempt should take note: What makes you think as a scorer lewandowski is better ? Based on those massively inflated goals stats as for many players in this era playing in Super Teams who bullies rest of the teams in their league and a period where scoring goals apparently for...

Poor game so far. Missed a shot and showcased his erratic playmaking ability with a very poor pass into Raphinha. A more creative player gets his angles right there and Raphinha is one on one. It's subtle moments like that where you see he lacks compared to other players, outside scoring...

This boy's a serious genius.

Poor man's Messi is still an exceptional footballer, though. Even being compared to Messi (unfavourably) highlights his ability.

He's too old. You need to sign with a view to the future. You already have grandpa Lewa (he's doing ok, but come on, he's 37 in August).

Gonna change it to 2-2. 2-1 after 90 and Real Madrid to equalise on the night and win the tie in the 30