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  1. Maradona37

    Petrinha's Barca

    Long shot but @zanela was her friend so maybe she saved them at the time and still has them? Of course she might not feel comfortable re-uploading them, but if she has them and trusts people here. Looks like she was a beautiful girl, inside and out. I visited her page and it's really sad...
  2. Maradona37

    10 - Lamine Yamal

    And that's just the number 10s. Barca and Real really have had their pick of the greatest players of all time. With it being in no small part due to Latin players or South American players tending to be the best players and preferring Spanish clubs to Northern European, for obvious reasons.
  3. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    I agree. I am very very big on style and how dominant a team is being important. That's why Pep's Barca are the best team I have ever seen - other teams won more, or lasted longer, but that four year spell was incredibly dominant and they left a lasting legacy and pioneered for this era (other...
  4. Maradona37

    14 - Marcus Rashford

    One thing that might be good is that he seems to WANT to be at Barca (if reports are true), highlighting he might be less likely to start his antics if he is a sub or not getting a game over Raphinha. There's a fine line between confidence in your own ability and arrogance/entitlement, and I...
  5. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    Thanks, and true, you are right - teams (and players for that matter) can only be judged in their historical context. We can indulge in counterfactual history all we like, but ultimately we can only judge what did happen, not hypotheticals or theories. Been a great debate. Love this thread mate.
  6. Maradona37

    2025 World Aquatics Championships

    @Messi983 You followed any of this? Swimming starts in about a week. You seen any of the water polo?
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    14 - Marcus Rashford

    Yeah I respect women's views on football - anatomy doesn't dictate whether a woman can know football or not, and plenty women talk more sense on the game than plenty of men. I am glad you were finally accepted and I am really sorry you had to put up with all that just for being female. It would...
  8. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    It's 20 or so years ago now so memory is hazy. A squad full of absolute superstars at the time, absolutely stacked. But one point I would make and haven't seen stated is clearly making a cut off between football pre Pep's Barca and post: pre Pep's Barca was much more about counter attack, less...
  9. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    Yeah true, sometimes history only remembers the victors unfortunately. Hopefully though people will always remember Pep's (as the best ever) and Enrique's Barca, even though they didn't win as many CL as they should have. That's true, and I didn't mention that - they became a better all-round...
  10. Maradona37

    14 - Marcus Rashford

    I understand your point, and I do like you as a poster and have had some pleasant exchanges with you. It could work out that way. But it doesn't always work out that playing with better players leads to better individual performances. Sometimes less pressure at a smaller club, or everything...
  11. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    @bismp Funny you mention Ronaldo. He's a bit of a microcosm of those Real teams in general i.e. they were better in 2010-2014 than 2016-2018, as he was as an individual player, but they won more in that latter era. Highlighting that many factors/variables go into winning football matches and...
  12. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    Yeah, like you say, on all-round ability they'd be lower, but they have a great CV/list of trophies. I feel it was a weaker era for Barca and RM, but again that would make it look negative of all teams of the post COVID era, including Man City. They did win a lot of matches in miraculous...
  13. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    Agree with all. I can see @FC B point a lot. But I feel he's putting more weight on style of play and football dominance, the presence of luck in knockout competitions. Whereas you are going quite strongly on what teams won, regardless of how they did it - while acknowledging the margins are...
  14. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    Yeah true, I don't think they are. The team that stood out to me as one they could leapfrog is the 2022-2024 Real team. I know they won more titles and two CLs, but at the same time Barca in general weren't as strong as before in those years. Even the season Xavi won the league was a bit of a...
  15. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    I agree Pep's Barca were a much better team than the Real three in a row team. They played far better football and to me that is the greatest team I have ever seen (club or international). However, what I will say is that bismp seems to be leaning quite strongly on achievements and accolades in...
  16. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    True, good point on the ageing of City's star players in those years. Especially the loss of David Silva from the team really impacted their playmaking style. He ran that team for a long time, in my opinion. I am a very big fan of his. Yeah I figured that would be your line of argument and it's...
  17. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    Good response. I'd say Madrid's argument is much more about what they won, rather than how they played and did it. The what over the how.
  18. Maradona37

    Greatest club team of the 21st century

    @bismp Seeing as I am quite familiar with these teams as I follow the PL a lot, and, It could be an anti-Madrid bias, but I would also be tempted to put Man City in second. True, they didn't win the CL as much, but they won all three domestic leagues (and in 2024 too solidifying that status)...
  19. Maradona37

    14 - Marcus Rashford

    Fair enough. There's things to like about it and also reasons to be sceptical. Like I say, having watched him for many years I could type out some of both, but not really in the mood right now. I definitely think it could turn out well. My worry for Barca is he plays poorly and kicks up a fuss...
  20. Maradona37

    14 - Marcus Rashford

    Just trying to give a more balanced viewpoint - look at pros and cons - rather than being dogmatically against him.

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