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How can Liverpool be this bad? Their first time back in the CL in like 5 years and they can't even get out of a group they easily could've gotten out of.

Would be like 10-0 against any non top 4 La Liga team

So without penalties, Ronaldo only has like two more goals despite a way better midfield and manager.

Barcelona 4-0 Espanyol Messi and Suarez with a brace each

Bartra, Montoya, and Douglas not in the squad.

What a disgusting dive.

Lewandowski is jealous he's not on that level. Messi on this Bayern would break all Bundesliga scoring records.

I wonder if Douglas is aware he's only at Barcelona because of Rosells shady deals with Neymars dad and Co.

Didn't Montoya play more under tata than Tito? Tito hated la masia players and it's partially his fault Thiago left. People are reluctant to criticize Tito since he passed away (RIP) but he was pretty stubborn and didn't play youngsters as much as people thought he would. We haven't had a good...

Had to be a money laundering signing but to play him over Montoya is absurd.

Muller is a cocky jackass who isn't great at anything but being in the right place to score. He's like the new Klose but more versatile. He'll never be even close to Messi so he has to talk crap.

What a shot he has on him :worthy:

Is there any logical reason he starts over Montoya?

Please start Ter Stegen. He deserves more matches.

Neuer winning would be awesome. As long as Ronaldo doesn't win. World cup needs to matter.

Douglas will never get real minutes. It's obvious he's another shady money laundering signing from Brazil like that other guy a few years ago.

Ter Stegen better play. He needs more matches besides the CL. I'd like to see Munir and Halilovic, too.

People forgetting to factor in the decline of Xavi and Iniesta plus the coaching disaster since pep left.

Ronaldo has been a goalscoring machine but he never had any truly important goals in the CL. He scored the fourth goal against Bayern and fourth against Atletico. His world cup was dreadful. The world cup should have a very big impact on that years balon dor.

Should be Messi or Neuer. It'd be a disgrace to give it to Ronaldo for riding the coat tails of Ramos and Di Maria to la Decima.