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Anyway, back on topic... everyone knows Cristiano Ronaldo has been an excellent player for a large part of his career (personally I think he lost it when he left Real Madrid). Nobody is disputing that he had a lot of years where he provided some entertainment and scored a lot of goals, and won...

'If its Messi who lead them to the wins why between 2010-2016 prime Messi couldnt do that??' Because football is often a game of fine margins. He had good tournaments and came very close, it isn't like he utterly flopped post 2010. If he scores that penalty vs Chile or Argentina beat Germany in...

Argentina weren't a top 2 team, and only are now because of Messi. People used to say Argentina had so many great players...then they listed Messi, Tevez, Higuain, Di Maria, Aguero. Only two or three of them can play at once. They were top heavy in Messi's prime, Portugal actually had a more...

Obviously I don't wanna go the other way and act like his titles and achievements are meaningless, lol. But they have to be put in the proper context. Ronaldo fanboys (not you) talk like he's a one man army dragging garbage teams to victory, and that is so detached from reality it's untrue...

The thing is - Portugal aren't average. In 2016 they weren't great and are one of the worst Euro winners ever, because they won one game of 7 in normal time. And Ronaldo was mediocre in Euro 2016. Messi was far better than Ronaldo was in Euro 2016 in the Copa America and World Cup he won. I'd...

Ah right, that is a shame. I am not that tall myself but have had women show interest in me sometimes. Hopefully the guy can find some women who like him soon - he sounds like he has a good heart and is kind, caring and charismatic. It's a shame his height is probably holding him back through no...

Lol fair enough mate. Take care and talk soon.

Yeah that is sort of how I meant it. Italy win it was expected, if Swiss win a person looks a genius for predicting it, and also doesn't look silly for doing so even if Italy win because it was brave to go against the grain and the favourite.

I said when he was scoring all those goals in the CL - a lot of the time they were chances set up by his team-mates. He was really reliant on service. In the earlier days he was less reliant. Ironically his biggest success at RM came when he became a worse player in the second half of his time...

It's understandable that some men get down about a lack of success with women. I have been there when I was shy and insecure. However, the extreme end of inceldom or red pill culture is what we have seen from the likes of Elliot Rodger, Adam Lanza and others. And guys like that have been...

Yeah it's so true and obvious for anyone who isn't wilfuly ignorant of how idol worship and society operates.

True to an extent, but like te amo barca said, this is straying dangerously into incel and red pill chat now lol. We definitely don't wanna associate ourselves with those types.

Did he say the same stuff? He must have good opinions. I know he's Scottish, like me. A lot of guys here much prefer Messi to Ronaldo. Other than two or three oddballs everyone I know thinks Ronaldo isn't close to Messi.

Yeah I was gonna say that too, a lot of guys look average. So maybe the relative scarcity is what attracts women. Of course there's also subjectivity to take into account - some guys are close enough in looks that one woman will prefer guy a and the second woman guy b. When it comes to Wayne...

Nobody should be worshipped for any reason, imo. We are all human - we have to eat, go to the toilet, we are all flawed. There are some amazing people out there, but worshipping another person is a slippery slope and likely to lead to disappointment.

I know it is, I am just explaining what he meant. I won't be picking the faves every time either. I thought Austria would get something against NL and they did.

He's right about a lot of that. I would only say that extremely handsome men (Brad Pitt, Jamie Dornan, Cavill, Jensen Ackles, The Hemsworth brothers for example) are worshipped for their looks too lol. In fact, women seem to obsess over handsome men even more than men obsess over beautiful women.

I think he's saying that if Italy win, it was expected anyway. Almost like if Switzerland win you get EXTRA kudos than usual, because most expected Italy to win. But if you were wrong, you were brave enough to stick your neck out.

Another thing I believe is that he rides on Messi's coattails as a player - people compare them all the time because of the media created rivalry. They think if he can keep up with Messi in stats (as he does) that means they're on the same level. In truth Messi is much much better when it comes...

I agree with all that. I really only have him about 8th or 9th due to peer pressure from others. Based on pure talent I wouldn't have him in the top 100 players of all time - but his (out of context) stats, trophies and longevity given him a boost I suppose. Like someone else said - he has...