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Hahaha fair enough mate. I guess the Messi/Ronaldo debate is a bit childish for grown men to indulge in. There's so much more to football than those two. I am only invested because I truly believe one is far better than the other and I hate overrating of people in general.

Nah we won't argue about CR/Messi mate. Getting on with people is more important to me than two footballers who are strangers to both of us.

I covered that. Do you think Pep would have accepted him? I think we will never know either way. I am not sure Pep would have put up with his 'lifestyle' (see Grealish) and more off the cuff style of playing football, lack of work rate. He had Messi but that was a young Messi. Alternatively you...

Where else could he go? No second fiddle at Barca, Real Madrid not an option, Bayern maybe but they're more of a well oiled team and I don't think he'd acclimatise to German culture. The Premier League? Not sure he'd have fit in there at Man City - when Pep came in it could have gone either way...

Second most talented player of his generation. Fucked his career going to PSG in the summer of 2017, as anyone with foresight predicted at the time.

Some decline he's had. He's looked poor for a while whenever I watch him. On the way down, most likely.

He's looked very good in this tournament (though I only watched the first two games of his, not the Portugal match). He has been assured and made good saves and caught the ball which always gives defenders confidence. He looks half decent on the ball, too. It will be interesting to see where he...

I think Palmer should maybe start vs Slovakia. Him and Mainoo and Gordon showed enough. Palmer can play in a number 10 role or on the right wing. He offers something different with his dribbling in tight spaces and wand of a left foot. It would mean dropping one of Saka or Bellingham but they...

You are a really nice guy I think. You have a good personality. You're just a bit OTT with Ronaldo, but you aren't obnoxious. Temp is probably a decent guy too, he just likes to troll.

Panama beating USA - fucking hell. As for Uruguay, didn't see the game but doesn't surprise me they're doing well. They have some great players and a crazy but effective madman for a coach.

Ultimately it's a pointless debate. Anyone with the slightest clue about football, or who has ever played the game, can see Messi is MILES more talented than Ronaldo. And he has the performances to back it up, more than Ronaldo. He's far less reliant on service, a far better dribbler, a far...

Many of Ronaldo's goals have been sheer stat padding though. For example the two in 2014 semis after Ramos had already sealed the tie, or the fourth in the final - a penalty in 120th minute after he'd been awful and he pathetically celebrated like he'd been MOTM. In fact most of his goals in the...

does he have this one too? maybe I should find a picture unique to the forum

I think it's pedantry. There's no such thing as a one man team - but Maradona and Messi (and Garrincha in 1962) come as close as anyone ever has. Maradona had Valdano and Burruchaga as other top players. Messi had 2 or 3 you can argue are really top players. But they were by a country mile the...

Fair enough on the free kick - I didn't watch the game, watched the Czechia-Turkey match.

Brilliant post - other than maybe the bit about Mbappe carrying France in the final. Not entirely sold on that, but other than that, excellent. Carrying or winning on your own is impossible in a team sport. Maradona and Garrincha came closer than anyone ever did, but ultimately you need at...

Lol that is so disingenuous. I missed the Chile game, but Messi ran the Canada game (admittedly missed two great chances) and was far better than the two games I watched from Ronaldo (and apparently he was bad against Georgia last night). It's another example of boiling Messi down to goals as...

Lol notice it's mostly his team-mates at Man United sucking up to him. Plus an American football player who has no clue about football and likely loves Ronaldo for his physique and pace. He didn't 'conquer' the Premier League :ROFLMAO: He scored goals thanks to service, while Man United became...

Lol fair enough. That is a bit weird.

Fati is a really nice guy I think. Has a good heart and personality. He just loves Ronaldo :ROFLMAO: