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Oh dear... well, welcome :D As long as you bring intelligent debate here though and not just trolling, you're fine

They didn't exactly play any of their star players. But still lol.

lol, that was so bad

USA vs. Czech Republic friendly about to start.

Almost everyone has those types of moments but I think people like Drogba and CR do it much more. I know age doesn't matter now, I was just saying that Torres still has many years left in him and can only get even better. And ok, I understand your comment now, I actually thought you were just...

I didn't throw Cesc in my list because he's not labeled a striker but he is undoubtedly up there as well, although like you said players can often act as other positions like Messi. Back to Torres though, his agent just said he is staying at Liverpool so if you count his words + Reina's, that...

And part of the reason why Torres is often not rated as high is because Liverpool quite frankly have sucked the past couple of years, especially this year. so of course Man Utd or Chelsea's stars are going to be rated higher than the star of a lesser team.

lol what? Rafa is a terrible coach, may have a better attitude than Mourinho but he still played a huge part in ruining LFC

I am by no means saying that Torres is the best player in the world but he is one of the best when fully fit. Villa, I can say he is as good as or better than Torres. Messi is better by far. As much as I hate to say it, C. Ronaldo is better (especially when he was at Man Utd) if you don't put...

Rooney better than Torres? He may have more goals on paper this season but he also played several more matches than Torres even though both were injured. Drogba? Ok, he may have scored more goals but he is also a diving wanker. And Milito, he is great but he is also 30 going on 31, and probably...

Well, almost coach.

:lol:

Of course Mou would say that about his countryman.

Ok for one thing that was a promotional shot, the make-up artist did a horrendous job there. Although it seemed to turn our Villa on... (Please forgive me Mr. Torres, I couldn't pass this up... you really are quite a man of course)

How you think Torres is a flop I have no idea, but you do have a point about our youth system.

Not necessarily as I'm assuming we would also still have Messi and/or Villa too

Bojan will kick ass, Torres partnering him would kick even more ass ;) I am never letting go of this :D

Exactly, prices can deteriorate just due to age, not due to injury... by then it's possible that he won't be a hot item for many teams either so we wouldn't have to set a competitive price. I suspect we could get him for a similar price as Villa at that time

40m although it looks likely we would pay more.

Zanetti if none other than the fact that it would have probably been his last WC