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Great work - fell asleep and missed second half, so all the action. Should hopefully finish at least top four now, hopefully top two.

Just about right on average this gameweek (though I have green arrows there). The expected results went my way but few of the punts did. 18 percent correct was my best outcome, thanks to @Messi983 giving me advice on Sporting. The rest didn't pan out. Most of my results were in the 90s and...

Fair enough. Can't be bothered arguing anymore anyway. I acknowledge he's a quality player. @El Gato sorry for the you don't play dig, that was below the belt and is not that important anyway. Thanks for the good debate earlier.

Very strong team to start. Bench will be important too.

What's good about you and I is we think very differently about football a lot of the time, but I would never let that get in the way of me thinking you are a good person. Football isn't even important at the end of the day, life, friends, family and being safe matters much more.

Nice wee close (2-1 Athletic I gone for), with Atletico and Lille winning too. Lovely stuff.

Because he's male or because he's only 36?

I'm not necessarily saying the same as Birdy - I still think Real Madrid could do the double as they have individual quality, experience and know how of doing it before. It's a big if, but could happen. I am simply talking about the pointlessness of graphics like the one posted earlier. You...

Nobody is even saying he's a poor player - hes a good player, has quality. The issue is stuff like people anointing him the new Zidane (another eye test not stats player) because he scores goals and sets them up. He is NOTHING like Zidane in talent, style of play, anything. It's just because he...

This whole debate seems pointless, you and me clearly think very differently to El Gato. I don't follow NBA but I have heard that Westbrook guy referenced before - a stats guy but didn't actually make the team better. Heard him compared to Fernandes a lot in football.

I am not even a Barca fan. Just saying it's an utterly pointless comparison as it says absolutely nothing about how any of the three players perform in general play. Any idiot can look at it and say Bellingham must be better without even being able to recognise the three men in the street.

I actually thought you knew a bit but you're proving you don't with such poor arguments. Not denying positioning, but someone can score 60 goals and be terrible in open play and still be a problem. It does happen. I never even said the team would play worse - but Aguero scored fewer goals and...

I also never said G/A doesn't have its uses (if context is applied). But when G/A implies Fernandes is miles better than Xavi and Iniesta, or Haaland pisses on Romario, you know it is flawed as fuck (though the latter especially brings in cross-era comparisons too).

How can it be projection when I know I play and have played thousands of times? You've taken an extreme. If Haaland's general play was miles better in the 10 scoring season, and in the 60 season he was playing like he is now, a donkey and passenger outside the box, you could absolutely say he...

CBs have a big part of their job as heading away crosses or long balls. CMs won't be dropped if they don't score - CBs will definitely be dropped if they let crosses come in constantly. It's totally different and worrying you can't see the distinction. Either way, the point is some players...

Anyway, @El Gato , the point is you and I have fundamentally different ways of playing football. I care much more about the general play outside of stats and about eye test. Maybe it's because I play football myself, you seem like you don't play, no offence.

A CM's job isn't to score goals - it's to control games and set the flow of the match, to get the team going. To intercept passes and passing lanes and win the ball too, to set tempo and generally be the engine. A CM can score goals and the team can still function poorly because he is poor...

Exactly, I am fucking fed up of it - I discussed it in another thread yesterday at length I think. What is even the point of watching games if we only count up stats? Like you say we might as well just check the score at the end of the game and see who got the goals and assists - any idiot can...

I just think it's pointless rating players like Bellingham, Haaland, Fernandes, even Ronaldo, by stats. They are stats cheat codes - they will always get good stats. But they're moments players - it's how they perform in the rest of the game that often sucks. They are invisible or do nothing...

I don't really think Bellingham is 'defensive' - being tall and strong and running about doesn't automatically make him defensive. His best work comes near the box. Either way, he's a stats merchant, so no surprise he looks good on the stats sheet. He always will, it's the rest of his game that...