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It impresses many people because many people have their priorities all fucked in this era. People love idiots who act like cunts for some reason. Hence some NBA players, rappers, love for Love Island contestants, and Ronaldo. People who act like that are deeply insecure and have no class, imo.

To be fair it was Temporary Fan who brought up Ronaldo's looks, I just contradicted him.

Doesn't look cool to me. Looks like a former incel trying to convince the world he's the best. Just looks like a cock. You do go in for all this 'charisma swagger, razzmatazz, main guy' stuff, as you call it. None of that impresses me at all. He just seems like an insecure cunt playing to the...

Two headers set up for him and a penalty. Meh. In fact has he ever scored an important hat-trick that doesn't include a penalty? The one against Atleti in 2017, that's all I can think of.

That's my point. I would be amazed if Messi was extremely magnetic behind closed doors - but we just do not know. I wouldn't say Ronaldo has social skills. He comes across as oblivious and clueless in these interviews. Ronaldo if anything is much more insecure as he feels the need to slag off...

That's the point - you are confusing outspoken with charisma. It is more interesting, in a can't take your eyes off a car crash type thing, but it doesn't make him more charismatic or thoughtful.

That is what I said. It it seen as a virtue in this society to be opinionated and arrogant and not take other views into account, and Ronaldo does all that. It doesn't make him smarter or more charismatic though, as we said. In fact it probably highlights his vast insecurity as he's always...

Yeah I thought TemporaryFan was talking about them as footballers. This has gone well off topic now anyway. Ronaldo really should be in jail though. I am fairly convinced he's a rapist but got away with it due to his money and power. He's a scumbag of a person and should be inspiring nobody...

He's probably autistic or on the spectrum. That doesn't make him less intelligent than Ronaldo, though. Bad social skills and weird behaviour don't make one person less intelligent than another. In fact, you can argue that high sense of inhibition is overanalysing surroundings and being very...

But the point is Messi isn't a vapid attention seeker like Ronaldo. He isn't so insecure he feels the need to give constant interviews about everything in football. Hence, we don't know if Messi is more intelligent or eloquent. I think some of the time you confuse being outspoken or...

Yeah, seems like the sort of thing that Ronaldo's PR team has convinced people of. I made that point too - Messi isn't less intelligent just because he doesn't embarrass himself with deluded opinions like Ronaldo does.

Well Messi hardly ever talks does he, so how do we know? Like I say, Ronaldo is just more opinionated/more of a cunt, so we hear more from him. They both seem stupid to me. It's like arguing whether Dopey or Sleepy is the taller dawrf.

I have actually heard some women say Messi is more handsome than C Ronaldo. I can see why too. If you put Ronaldo's face on messi's body and height and vice-versa I think it's a lot closer than you think. Messi has some nice photos, with the right hair and beard. Either way, C Ronaldo just...

Eloquent? His English is awful. Maybe he's eloquent in Portuguese but he can't even speak his English is so broken. Maybe Messi is smart and just doesn't go out of his way to be outspoken? I doubt it but just because Ronaldo has a big mouth it doesn't mean he's 'intelligent and eloquent'. The...

In fact that is how you know Ronaldo isn't genuinely good looking - he can be argued to be the most famous person in the world, has money and status coming out of his ears - yet STILL many women are resistant to him. A genuinely handsome man at his otherwordly levels of money and fame would be...

Ronaldo is an alleged rapist. How is Ronaldo intelligent? He comes across as a thick, deluded maggot to me who has no education and doesn't know when to quit playing football. Eloquent? He can hardly even form a coherent sentence. I totally disagree that he is handsome - he's very weird looking...

@Masetro10 Lol, love the new profile pic mate.

Sorry, misread that originally. Temporary Fan. He said Messi can('t) shine Ronaldo's shoes. Both of them are dickheads. Just defending the player I consider significantly better, as a footballer.

True, not saying Ronaldo lacks IQ, just that Messi has a bit more. In saying that Messi is good at finding space too. The rest of the stuff stands though. Anyway don't wanna turn it into M v R, it's not the thread for that. I just find it a wild take that there's anyone out there who thinks...

Totally disagree - Messi has a far higher football IQ than C Ronaldo and is miles better in so many facets of the game, lol (dribbling, passing, ability in tight spaces, playmaking, vision, football IQ, free-kicks, chipping the ball and so on). Ronaldo can't shine his shoes more like. Ronaldo -...