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No everyone actually cared about it .. as before it there was the Latin club which had the champions of France,Spain,Italy,Portugal competing each year .. the only FA which didn't participate at the beginning was the English FA , but soon Man United made way in the second (or third can't...

yes it was .. The league champions of Europe

excellent post Ed

Who said we are ditching it ?? I'm giving it it's real value...a much less value than the Liga,CL owning a normal Nokia isn't the same value as owning an HTC or I Phone.. all are phones but of different value .. Anyhow back to RM news.. Juve want Gago.. give it to them

It is a twat trophy for us (and for you ) and not only did we play more finals than you we also are the only team in the history of copa del gay to have the B team & the first team playing in the final in the early 80's .. it is still a useless cup for everyone involved par the small teams who...

We are discussing their value towards the overall haul stopping being a complete retard neither discussing when it was harder (of course it is harder these days ) If a team won 12 UEFA cup would u consider that a higher achievement than winning 6 or 7 CL ? you wouldn't play your second line in...

And plenty of UEFA cup winners win the European super cup cause it's a moral achievement for them they want it more ,they fight for it more than the big guns not only Donestsk but Seville..etc while the European Champions are just... Champions of Europe

for the old fart like me no doubt WC 1982... by far... and i do mean far from any other WC . the amount of classic games were unbelievable and never repeated before or after ... England-France , Brazil - Italia,Brazil-Argentina,Italia-Argentina,Algeria-Germany , Germany-Italia...

determine between making it the same as winning the CL which it isn't and that's what Ward and me were saying ... local cup winners are always a step behind and the competition is weaker than the CL .. it has nothing to do with what you are barking about here and trying to make it a matter of...

Competing vs Rangers, my pub team , my neighborhood cricket club ...or vs Barca,Real,United,Chelsea..etc CL please.. the biggest competition in the world ... UEFA cup is like second division league.. yes you won the league but it's the second division league ffs ... CL finalist (not even...

And you say i dance around it ? :lol::lol::lol: the main conversation was IF winning the likes of UEFA cup & CWC make weight compared to the CL ... u'll improve in time agree but i do hold UEFA cup over Copa del Rey knowing how Barca & Real don't give a shit till they reach the semi's...

exactly (For the first part ) Used to be Benji .. used to be... as i said it's a nice thing beside the main ..

Well all domestic cup competitions in Europe are meaningless u tell Milan-Inter-Juve-Barca-Real-Valencia-United-Gunners-Pool-Chelsea to chose between winning the cup competition or play in the Champions league they all will answer the same thing .. fuck the cup It's nice beside the main...

Exactly.. and i think UEFA already do similar thing for their ranking ... although you are so generous on Copa Del Rey ... SADLY I'M READING WHAT YOU WROTE Reaching the Semi is more valuable than winning a UEFA cup... it's an achievement cause you know you are in the top 4 teams in Europe...

Yeah very valuable ... that's why Barca playing in it is considered a failure..right ? that's why you lot laughed on Liverpool ... and that's why the winner of the CL play in the club world cup not the UEFA cup ... and the reason the 3rd place don't try in UEFA cup it's because it means nothing...

Educate your dogs Eddie

More like complimentary as always Raed I'm sorry but that's really absurd argument K Would we say X team is bigger than Y team .. cause X won 6 UEFA cups while Y won 3 CL ? yes reaching the CL semi final is bigger than UEFA cup.. u can easily name the last 8 in the CL .. u'll struggle to name...

Sorry to burst your bubble (or your moment of Zen Mr. Stewart :D ) But it's very inaccurate ... first we never won the Cup winners cup as we were competing in the CL most of the time second we did win the Club world cup... just from the top of my head i didn't go through it in details

when i say recent history in football i'll mean the last 10 years... so yes it's selective based on you trying to reach a certain point , which is "hey look when i say 20 it will show we won more " irrelevant of "based on what " .. not 30 and no 10 .. just 20 ... so yeah your point of view in...