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Yes. I mean it's a hard one on Spain - they're still pretty good and are European champions, but obviously the golden generation team was better. Even when I watch international tournaments, they don't seem as good as the past, 2022 aside. Though it could be (as I said before) my nostalgia...

So many elite national powerhouses have declined, haven't they? Was football just better 20 years ago? Brazil, Italy, Netherlands are the main culprits. Spain are still good but not as good as they were (though that is harsh as I am comparing to their best ever team). Argentina, England...

Just seen it's Verbruggen that is in goal, suspected it was him when you guys talked about his shot stopping (he's good on the ball too). He's very good at Brighton.

To be a bit pedantic, it is Portugal Denmark.

I'm just joking. As I said it's just the Nations League. I rarely even watch it.

It truly seemed that way, because I have never seen you use raping to describe domination in football before, lol.

hmmm...

I cursed him. Was speaking literally 10 mins ago about how he's missed about 7 pressure pens in his career. There's another, though to be fair it is the Nations League.

Is it? Fair enough. But a lot of people would leave Neymar out of that list. He seems really hated for his personality, and it affects how people see him as a footballer.

Ronaldo Senior to cry and moan and complain when he is benched for Ronaldo Junior in the round of 16?

Looking at it again it does look like his body shape and eyes are on Raphinha. And the way he strikes the ball looks more of a pass and less of a shot. It's still hard to say, though.

Ronaldo captaining Portugal to glory at the tender age of 49?

Made me laugh, especially the bit about living in a world. Though, to be fair, every team has cunts. I bet if you met some Barca or Argentina players you'd think a few of them were cunts when you got to know them. Just the way life is. You can still be happy for the guys you like if Brazil win it.

At least it's in the Americas, which history tells us gives South American sides a better chance than when in Europe. Plus Brazil have already won the World Cup in the USA. Yes, it's superstition and not much to hold on to, but it is better than nothing. But I can see Brazil going a long time...

Quoting myself to say that one of the commentators said during the Atletico game that he was told he'd never walk again when he was 15. So fair play to the guy for even playing at this level of football. I still don't thin he's that good, but brilliant to be competing.

He's without doubt one of the top 10 midfielders ever. An absolute genius.

I get your point, but Ronaldo has missed a lot of pressure penalties. It isn't an unusual thing for him, though he's scored pressure ones plenty too. He scores most of the non-pressure ones. Not slagging him again, just saying that he's missed 6 or 7 big penalties in his career.

I don't rate Mbappe as much as I used to, but to be fair you can make disasterclass videos about anyone. When you compile bad moments. Same as you can make poor players look like world beaters.

Cheesy post.

How can he not be top 20 of the 21st century, lol. Since he came onto the scene only Messi has been more talented than him. And it isn't like he's just a big talent who does fuck all. He fucked his career by going to PSG, yes, but he did enough at Santos and Barca (and in spells at PSG) to show...