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I am not denying he has some degree of talent. But by the elite standards City are expected to operate at (winning PLs and CLs), he's average and doesn't have it. He's a top 4 Serie A level type of player, imo. Same goes for a lot of the other guys they have signed. Decent players, just not...

I find a lot of football fans these days take a liking to certain players they've barely seen, or only watched on highlights videos. Then they start obsessing over that player or players like they're their relatives. Constructing a narrative like they know all about that player. Not saying...

I generally agree with you on plenty of stuff, just not this. I do agree with you on Bellingham. The point is you're probably impressed by him running the show against Cremonese for MIlan, whereas I am not. hence the difference in opinion. Like Jam Dav said, his team finished 8th in Serie A...

Not doubting he will improve from how abject he's been. But will he and the others improve to the point City are back to being serial PL winners and CL contenders? Doubtful.

The point is he's a drastic downgrade from when they had Yaya Toure, David Silva, KDB, Bernardo, Rodri at his best (yes I know he's a different type of player or position to most of these but I mean in standard). And that's true of so many of the players they have signed. A clear level or 8...

Or maybe you're easily impressed? Just because it takes you ages to evaluate a player doesn't mean it takes me that long. You're a hipster.

Exactly. Hipsters rating someone who's a good player but a Milan level player at best. He will never be at de Jong's level.

Or maybe he's just not that good. Everyone always hides behind 'he needs time' with every player. .I have seen him about a dozen times now and he has never impressed me. I can't see City improving much so he will go down with the ship.

He's lost too many great players from the past and replaced them with overrated hype merchants from poorer teams or weaker leagues like Reijnders, Doku, Savinho, Marmoush, Ait-Nouri etc. They're all mid-table players. Cherki might prove the exception but jury is out on him too. Mid-table level...

I was told by everyone on here that Reijnders is a superb player. Looks extremely average and overhyped, like so many players nowadays. Serie A level player.

Was being hypothetical but I concur.

Disagree he's more technical than Palmer. I don't actually rate Guler that much. But yes, your point that there's a lot more to it than technique is a fact.

Play all three and be by a million miles the best midfield in world football. Dembele, Doue and Kvara up front.

I might be underrating him. To be fair with you, I am willing to change my opinion on him. I am open to doing that. I just feel like he isn't as good as some claim on here. It's not a slagging of Barca as a whole as they have some quality players (in the context of modern football). I just...

It's not like I take pleasure in putting down players, especially Barca players on a Barca forum. But there's a lot of bias to some of the lesser players in the Barca squad on here, just because they play for Barca. Flick's Barca haven't even beaten a strong team in the CL knockouts yet. The...

Can't be real. After all, he didn't have Ronaldo's 'amazing mentality and leadership' to magically rub off on him and control him like a Playstation player, as Felix did.

I rate him a bit more than mavolio, but any club who pays 70m Euros for Fermin Lopez is negligent. That's Man United levels of stupidity. Or Newcastle with this Woltemade fella. Some people are even mentioning 100m which is la la land. He has his uses but he's really not that good. He's just a...

Indeed, despicable opulence over there.

Probably spreading salaries and amortising fees over really long contracts. They sell a lot too and loan youth players. Plus other very dodgy dealings.

Nice goal, but bolded is a clown and cost them a point with his shirt pulling. I don't think Edwards came on at all. Not sure why not.