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I don't want to go there, but imagine say a Dzeko acting like that :lol:

Mario fucking Balotelli, is obviously a retard then...

Messi Xavi Cesc

I am not saying that Europe is all that matters. But it is the only reliable (if imperfect) metric of the relative strength of each and every league. To merely claim that the Italian league circa 1987 was absolutely epic, is not nearly enough for my money. I have little doubt that it was the...

As for their performances in the UEFA Cup: 1985/86: Torino, out in the 2nd round. Eliminated by Hajduk Split, 4-2 on agg. AC Milan, out in the 3rd round. Eliminated by Waregem (BEL) 3-2 on agg. Inter, out in the semis. Eliminated by Real Madrid, 6-4 on agg. (ET) 1986/87: Fiorentina, out...

As for the performances of Italian teams in the European Cup during the Maradonna era: 1985/86: Hellas Verona lost to Juventus in the 2nd round. Juventus lost to Barcelona :D in the quarters by 2-1 on aggregate. 1986/87: Juventus eliminated by Real Madrid after a penalty shoot-out...

As for Serie A's rankings during the 1980s. 1980: 10th 1981: 9th 1982: 12th 1983: 11th 1984: 5th 1985: 2nd 1986: 1st 1987: 1st 1988: 1st 1989: 1st 1990: 2nd (to Germany)

The argument that Italian teams tended to favor domestic competition as opposed to European competition rings extremely hollow to me, if not downright childish. The EL, did not exist back then. Before the expansion of the CL circa 2000, the old UEFA Cup was a very prestigious competition (not...

In the early stages of the match yes. He then vastly improved. The absence of Iniesta makes it more difficult for him. Still, this guy is just... :worthy: :xavi:

Why does this dude after scoring the simplest of tap-ins or penalties, stare at the stands like he is a cross between Hannibal, Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great???

Let me repeat again. Nothing makes any sense in isolation. Messi has never come close to winning the WC, but he has already outshone just about everyone who has (except maybe Maradona himself) Posing the question of the GOAT, in terms of the WC is quite arbitrary. It is a competition that a...

Unless he is Leo Messi. Winning the WC is a major feat in football. Nothing more than that. Maradonna never won the CL. Does that make him a lesser player than Maldini who won it 5 times? Fransisco Gento won La Liga 12 times, and the European Cup an epic 6 times. Does that make him better...

Yeah. Iniesta tends to accelerate/dribble much more often than Xavi does. If people can recall correctly, it was in an effort of acceleration/dribbling that he got injured against AC Milan. One of the reasons why Messi was moved in the center by Pep, was to avoid the stress of accelerating...

Predicting this staff 2 years from now will prove futile me thinks. But people can of course try their best. I would like to make predictions for this season though. La Liga: 1. Barcelona 2. Real Madrid 3. Valencia 4. Bilbao 5. Atletico 6. Malaga EPL: 1. United 2. Man City 3...

On a further note. You seem baffled with my mentioning of the Numancia and Hercules games of yesteryear. The reason why I brought those up, was to precisely underline my argument, that judging based on limited evidence (that you seem to be persistently doing) can lead to the most wrongful of...

Well. Some things will remain forever beyond your intellectual capacities. It seems so, at least. But the difference between you and me, is that I can refine my argument for the benefit of clarity, precision and approximation of the truth. All you seem capable of, is provocation, insult, and...

Again. You pretend to be an analytic philosopher. It's not about isolating this sentence here or there. The fact that he was not great against Milan last time round proves nothing at all, for the reasons I have repeatedly highlighted. But you fail to take note of that by quoting some random...

Don't play analytic philosopher to me first of all. Cesc is a world-class player (proven a thousand times over) and your efforts to belittle him are doomed to failure. The fact that he was not ready for that game and had to come off the bench as emergency after the Iniesta injury does not seem...

How many times do I have to tell you??? You cannot reach any safe conclusions whatsoever from an isolated, group stage game in September. A single unimportant (relatively speaking) game means practically nothing in the grand scheme of things. Barca always start slow. In 2008/09 we lost our...

OK. Pin your hopes on that then. But we may also pin our hopes on the fact that he KO you out of the CL in 2008, that he bossed Juve in 2006 (when he was 8-years-old) and that he has assisted more than any player in Europe in the past 5 years...