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Considering that Barca/Real/Atleti have been battling hard all season long on multiple fronts, and are still involved with very tough ties in the CL, can Valencia maintain a secret and slightly crazy hope, of coming out on top in the end, since they only have the league to worry about?

I was under the impression that they are pushing for 3rd. In fact, they are not that far behind the Big 2.

Valencia winning again. That means they are 4 and 5 points behind us and Real.

They do. But Zlatan is even better than Penaldo in scoring...penaldos.

Verratti assisting Ibra there. :cool:

Thing is that PSG would be under extreme pressure had they lost points here. Pisses me off.

We were saying... Another uber-soft penaldo for PSG.

They also played very well against us in both GS games in the CL this season.

Anyone watching our CL opponents now? Verratti should probably have been red-carded there.

It seems so. Lorient just equalized. Our CL opponents seem to not care about their league so much, or something strange like that seems to happening. Or is Ligue 1 awesome all of a sudden?

Very interesting ties shaping up in the EL, all 4 can go either way, so that is one area where the EL is more exciting than the CL.

:lucho3: Indeed.

Honestly now, how many penaldos do PSG win in France every year?

His point is that the team that beats Barca, is always a top-notch one, that usually goes on to win the tournament, or at least make the final! You cannot look past that. Since 2005: We lost to Jose's first and formidable Chelsea side 4-3 on aggregate, with some dodgy John Terry goal. In...

Bayern and Juventus are already through to the semis, the other two ties are open. Bookmaker odds have been slashed for both Bayern and Juventus, and with very good reason. In fact Bayern, may face a semi-final line-up without Barca or Real.

6 games this season: Supercup: 1-1 at the Bernabeu (good result for Atleti) and 1-0 at the Calderon giving Atleti the title. La Liga: 1-2 at the Bernabeu, despite the phantom penalty from that Penaldo dive. At the Calderon, 4-0. Yes, Madrid were in bad form and missing a host of players, but...

If you are trying to say that 09/10 Bayern was anything remarkable, then I am wasting my time here.

Your 09/10 team was crap, but rode its luck (as well as some atrocious refereeing decisions) to the final, which it promptly lost. Your 10/11 team was not good either. 11/12? Same thing. 12/13 was the exceptional year for Bayern, and even then needed some luck against both Arsenal and...

I think it's a bit better for us to face Bayern in the final. No away goals BS, a straight shoot-out that will give us the chance to pull off what Real Madrid did to them last year. There will be no Monaco in the semis. Unless Juventus completely and utterly self-destruct.

Bayern were outsmarted and outplayed last year by Real Madrid. Their defeat had nothing to do with fatigue, and my point is that it could have been even worse if they had to exert themselves domestically as well. In other words, just because you may very well lose while being properly rested...