Real Madrid (old thread)

[ricknattery]

Is that so then in La liga there has only been one winning team in history(Barcelona 08/09) and the PL has also had only one winning team in history(Manchester united 98/99). Get your facts straight I don't believe in any such thing as a winning team Real were awesome last season whether we like it or not however every team has room for improvement if there isn't then football would become boring.

relax buddy, i just answered that way because wolfe said Madrid need no change, and they have only won a domestic title, that is all there is

 

[Maria]

you change a winning team because barca won't have pique,sanchez,pedro picking up injuries throughout the season and villa is unlikely to miss half the season, it would be like madrid without di maria,benz,higs and ramos. add to that tito is unlikely to tinker as much as pep did last season.

How do you know Tito's methods? Until now we have seen him only in a game and a friendly one on top of that. I remeber 2 seasons ago people were complaining that Pep doesn't rotate more, when that at the time he had only Bojan, Jeffren, Adriano and Keita on the bench. Now we are saying that Pep changed the team too much when you said it yourself that the amount of injuries that our team suffered last year wasn't normal.

Let's wait and see, but at the moment I think it's obvious that RM is the favourite for the Liga title: they have Mourinho, who, like Raed said gave them a sustainibility that they didn't had it before, knows how to motivate his players and he doesn't have uncertainity on key positions. While we don't know what to expect from Pique, Pedro, Villa and Xavi this season, they have Ramos that transformed himself in an amazing CB, Benzema and Higuain who scored 50 goals between them last season. And Tito may very well be a good coach, but we don't know how he will react when he will have only a CB at his disposal in a CL QF(against Arsenal last year we played with a back-four made from Alves-Busi-Abidal-Adriano) or when he will have only one striker in a game against Real Madrid.

 

[Maria]

I think Real Madrid's approach this year has been nothing short of comforting and awesome. I am relaxed with the lazy rumors, it feels good to have sustainability. I wasn't keen on Mourinho staying but now that he is staying, I am glad because it gives Madrid a major sense of continuity. No need to make rash purchaces, no need squad stacking. I think Mourinho is shopping around to buy properly. But more so I think he is organizing the club from bottom up. Its just my thoughts but I have a feeling he is looking to create a structured team on all levels for the future.

If he would stop giving interviews or press conferences he would be perfect..but I guess you guys don't care as long as he's winning. Just like we didn't care about Pep's tinkering until he couldn't win at home against the worst Chelsea side in years.

My only concern is the Ronaldo dependency and Xabi/Khedira. I want Javi Garcia more so now that he scoted against us and not celebrating. I think he'd give Madrid a massive boost in identity and improve our game. How well would he fit in, I am not sure but I like him and his stache a lot.

We have our own Messi-dependency to cry about and at least you had Higuain and Benzema who will probably give you at least another 40 goals this season. Xabi would be your biggest problem because he will have to play another 50+ games this season and last year it showed after Christmas(and coincidence or not, the team started playing worse at the same time with Xabi). I thought Sahin would be a perfect replacement for Xabi, but it seems that Mou doesn't trust him.

 

[Barcaman]

I wouldn't sit on my laurels if I was Mou. 1 title (albeit major) won and still a negative record vs. Barca. The progress is there, though.
It does seem Mou and co. are making some smart or at least rent-able buys and I wouldn't be much worried about depending on Ronaldo when it's obvious Barca depends even more on Messi.

 

[Banana-Rama]

I think Real Madrid's approach this year has been nothing short of comforting and awesome. I am relaxed with the lazy rumors, it feels good to have sustainability. I wasn't keen on Mourinho staying but now that he is staying, I am glad because it gives Madrid a major sense of continuity. No need to make rash purchaces, no need squad stacking. I think Mourinho is shopping around to buy properly. But more so I think he is organizing the club from bottom up. Its just my thoughts but I have a feeling he is looking to create a structured team on all levels for the future. My only concern is the Ronaldo dependency and Xabi/Khedira. I want Javi Garcia more so now that he scoted against us and not celebrating. I think he'd give Madrid a massive boost in identity and improve our game. How well would he fit in, I am not sure but I like him and his stache a lot.

i don't get the hype around javi garcia, whenever i have seen him play he just looks average to me, didn't impress me at all against united last season, he's very limited on the ball, you already have khedira to run and tackle and l.diarra too, madrid's squad is pretty much set, if they replace kaka with modric the squad will be close to perfect, they could use a good right as madrid can do better then arbeloa.............

 

[Raed]

I wouldn't sit on my laurels if I was Mou. 1 title (albeit major) won and still a negative record vs. Barca. The progress is there, though.
It does seem Mou and co. are making some smart or at least rent-able buys and I wouldn't be much worried about depending on Ronaldo when it's obvious Barca depends even more on Messi.

The way I see it is that we should surpass Barca not be on the same level as them or try to emulate them. They aren't the final standard we should push beyond that, even it is baby steps. So the fact that Barca depends on Messi doesn't mean Real should be okay with the Ronaldo dependancy. My ultimate goal is to have a more balanced team, free of the routine dimension, Ronaldo. I want a dynamic team that can win games with Ronaldo havig freak shots from far and show off his thighs. You know what I mean?

I think a lot of it had to do with the lack of creative players on the field, I know wr have plenty but in order to be better we need to have better. Always upgrade. Xabi is tired, Khedira is limited. We need to upgrade, even if slowly.

 

[Raed]

i don't get the hype around javi garcia, whenever i have seen him play he just looks average to me, didn't impress me at all against united last season, he's very limited on the ball, you already have khedira to run and tackle and l.diarra too, madrid's squad is pretty much set, if they replace kaka with modric the squad will be close to perfect, they could use a good right as madrid can do better then arbeloa.............

You could be right and I may romanticizing but he is from the Castilla. Granero has a mad slow learning curve due to the limited time he has played but his presence and motivation is never in doubt and always very effective. Because he is a Madridista through and through. We need more identity.

 

[La Furia]

You have an identity, a Portuguese one.

 

[JackaL]

Luka Modric finally signed for Madrid?

 

[Robbie]

Most of you might've already seen this, but I found this quote from Jerzy Dudek's book today (from the 5-0 win over Madrid):

And Mourinho also posted all of these in their locker room so they wouldn't forget

Say what you will about him, but he's probably one of the best managers of all time

 

[Valdivia]

To be honest, none of these particular actions are groundbreaking.

 

[Ustari]

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthrea...ugh-the-eyes-of-Puyol-Valdés-Xavi-amp-Iniesta

 

[Maria]

And Mourinho also posted all of these in their locker room so they wouldn't forget

Say what you will about him, but he's probably one of the best managers of all time

He just wanted to make sure that Arbeloa, Pepe and Ramos won't have anything to say when he asks them to break our players legs ..also if Pep would have made a collage with all the shit Mourinho said in the last 2 years, he would need the entire Camp Nou to display it. And too bad that Xavi's declaration in 2011 or Beckenbauer's in 2012 weren't enough for them to qualify in the CL final.

But hey they won the best CdR final and the best LL..and I've seen that today Casillas said that they deserved to win the CL also, just like they deserved it last year.

I can apreciate many things from Mourinho and I agree that he's one of the best managers of all time, but I don't like this brainwahing that he does at every team he coaches and how he poisoned the atmosphere until Pep said that he couldn't even enjoy the El Clasicos that we won. Mourinho makes sure that if he can't win, you will feel like you lost also. I just hope he won't start again with the Supercup.

 

[Galning]

Totally agree with you Maria, and euh... I wouldn't start hoping if I were you. It's going to be the same shit all over again as long as Mourinho is here.

 

[Robbie]

In the theatre that is football, you couldn't ask for a better adversary than Mourinho. The tackles are excessive I agree, but he plays the part of the villain to perfection. Classicos are more interesting to watch regardless of the scoreline, and the childish spats he has with other managers are hilarious.

As a longtime Arsenal fan, I can remember very clearly how much I hated him when he was at Chelsea. He said and did many things that crossed the line (e.g. the tapping up of Cole, and calling Wenger a voyeur), but I still missed his presence when he was gone.