Champions League 25/26

Winner?


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JamDav1982

Senior Member
That's one side of the coin. The other side of the coin is that clubs like Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona are bigger, and bigger means more competitive and consistent.

No... that makes no sense and latest mental gymnastics as argud likes of Arsenal are massively over rated and EPL not that greaT.

Barca are bigger than City... means fuck all for how much better City and Liverpool have been in last years.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
That's one side of the coin. The other side of the coin is that clubs like Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona are bigger, and bigger means more competitive and consistent.
That's why no one watches their league and their club presidents are desperately pushing for the Super League.

After a while, even the fans of these clubs stop enjoying League Titles as much as they should. That's why they always want the CL every year.

FWIW, Barca had only 1 CL/EC before their golden era started in 2006 so it's not like you were winning the CL every other year.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Doesn't that happen in every league though, it's just that the chasing pack is not good enough to make it count? Madrid and Barca have both been quite poor this season, yet they're both at the top of the league.

I think more responsability should be directed to teams that can't maintain their level despite every condition to do so. Competition didn't suddenly get bigger for Liverpool, they just aren't used to getting titles every season or even pushing for it.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I think more responsability should be directed to teams that can't maintain their level despite every condition to do so. Competition didn't suddenly get bigger for Liverpool, they just aren't used to getting titles every season or even pushing for it.

Yet a few weeks ago league was negative as Liverpool were romping a one team league.

Top stuff.

A lot has changed for Liverpool since last season and dips get exposed there week in week out.
 

serghei

Senior Member
That's why no one watches their league and their club presidents are desperately pushing for the Super League.

After a while, even the fans of these clubs stop enjoying League Titles as much as they should. That's why they always want the CL every year.

FWIW, Barca had only 1 CL/EC before their golden era started in 2006 so it's not like you were winning the CL every other year.

Barca won an absurd no of league titles in the last 20 years in a league that has been overall no1 in this time frame.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
I think more responsability should be directed to teams that can't maintain their level despite every condition to do so. Competition didn't suddenly get bigger for Liverpool, they just aren't used to getting titles every season or even pushing for it.
Yet we have the most domestic trophies in England and the 3rd most number of CLs.

We have a brilliant squad currently and are defending PL champions but the club needs to make some changes. It's not the end of the world.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Barca won an absurd no of league titles in the last 20 years
Yes because that was your golden era.

4 of your 5 CLs were in the 2006 to 2015 period.

in a league that has been overall no1 in this time frame.
La Liga was never the number 1 league. It just had the 2 best teams in the world at the time.

The league from top to bottom isn't anywhere near the PL in terms of quality, entertainment or competitiveness. Let's not act like it was 90s Italia. :lol:
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yet a few weeks ago league was negative as Liverpool were romping a one team league.

Top stuff.

A lot has changed for Liverpool since last season and dips get exposed there week in week out.

I don't care that much if it's Liverpool, or Arsenal, or Chelsea that gets the title. Just have 2-3 teams at similar level to have an interesting title fight.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yes because that was your golden era.

4 of your 5 CLs were in the 2006 to 2015 period.


La Liga was never the number 1 league. It just had the 2 best teams in the world at the time.

The league from top to bottom isn't anywhere near the PL in terms of quality, entertainment or competitiveness. Let's not act like it was 90s Italia. :lol:

It's debatable. The competition is tougher to win if you have a very strong rival all the time.

But I agree it is going in a direction that signals EPL as also the most competitive at the very top. Madrid and Barcelona are losing steam compared to teams like Arsenal and partly Chelsea.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
EPL is by far the best league but there top 2/3 sides each season should be in mix with Bayern/Spainsx2/PSG etc.

Should still be competitive and number of teams that can win it.
 

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