Hans-Dieter Flick
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FinBarcelonafan
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Not enough pressure on the opponent plus sloppier defending + opponents adjusting to previous season strategies.
Loki
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You talk like Flick reinvented the wheel with his tactic and the opponents needed a year to find a solution. That's bullshit, because Flick didn't invent a high-line, it was already there since football exists. Meaning teams adapted to his tactic way earlier in the last season, but it still worked, because the team ran more than the opponent.
It can be that simple, because football isn't rocket science. You tactic will most of the time look better than the opponents, if you run more. I have absolutely zero doubt, that we'll start to win games comfortably again provided the team returns to the physical state of previous season and what will the excuse be then? Teams unadapted us again?
It stands and falls with the player's legs. Get the players healthy again, stop the injuries, start running more. That's the priority right now until the end of the year.
And then, if we start running on the same level again and we keep losing games, then you can say this tactic doesn't work anymore. But I'm sure it won't come to that, again provided we find our form and the fucking muscle fatigues and injuries stop.
edit: conceding goals like this has nothing to do with adaptation of the opponent, this is just players not following Flick's requirements. Leaving the passing player completely alone without any pressure from pressing, Balde attacking alone from 10m distance making the pass even easier, back-line understands too late to put the attacker into offside. This is only on us, that didn't happen last season.
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MonteCuler
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It does painfully remind of November-December. Players being mentally absent, some reliable players struggling with basic football techniques and generally team's body language screams of no confidence, maybe a good part of them is starting to have doubts about this system too
We gotta get back to winning in style soon. Rashford should do less dribbling and more runs. He is supposed to replace Raphinha, not be another Yamal.
We gotta get back to winning in style soon. Rashford should do less dribbling and more runs. He is supposed to replace Raphinha, not be another Yamal.
Birdy
Senior Member
Any XI with Kounde in it is a waiting to happen these days.
If I were Flick, I would totally station him on the bench for good.
Christensen is the most unfavored and mistreated.
Araujo or Eric at RB, Kounde benched, and Christensen in there should happen
Iniesta Ultra
Senior Member
Their first goal, in case anyone missed it live Ford knows they're setting the trap line to his position so he starts his sprint in opposite direction before curving back towards our goal. He doesn't need to see where our defenders are behind him to beat this stupid trap game.
That's all that any coach needs to tell their team to do, hold the pass until attacker starts their run in 'wrong' direction.
It's fundamental aikido, never fight, always apply power harmonically with your opponents (partners).
That's all that any coach needs to tell their team to do, hold the pass until attacker starts their run in 'wrong' direction.
It's fundamental aikido, never fight, always apply power harmonically with your opponents (partners).
Devils
Senior Member
Flick or no Flick next year, Laporta and Deco need to make some key signings.
The biggest concern at this club should be if we allow ourselves to get into a position where a rebuild is not feasible given the team requirements and financial situation and as a result we continue to deteriorate.
I just don't see how this team doesn't have huge glaring holes unless a ST, LW, LB and CB are signed next year. I'd opt for a RB too but I think Eric can cover that positon if moved away from CB.
The question is, how much of this is even feasible?
The biggest concern at this club should be if we allow ourselves to get into a position where a rebuild is not feasible given the team requirements and financial situation and as a result we continue to deteriorate.
I just don't see how this team doesn't have huge glaring holes unless a ST, LW, LB and CB are signed next year. I'd opt for a RB too but I think Eric can cover that positon if moved away from CB.
The question is, how much of this is even feasible?
Negative titles in Catalan Sport. Questioning Flick, Rashford (it's always the non-Spaniard), Henry criticizing Barca.
No title on no budget, not planning/letting Inigo for free, no stadium, uncertainty about pre-season and more players leaving, failed promises on big signings.
Let's just narrow it down to defense then. They expect great performances there with even worse line than last season. And as Frenkie honestly said last night, it wasn't that good last year either. Maybe the solution is to put mighty Martin or Cubarsi in? Those are the best names on the bench. Astralaga too lately.
Solution is, primarily, to get back to pressing. Team runs significantly less than last season and this is where problems start. It's either that or play more conservatively and abandon high press. But if you do that prepare to be able to defend more. But then we're back at main question: With what players? Compare that last line with other top clubs. And accept the fact we don't have real DMs either.
Flick is doing best with what he's given. Once real captain of this team
is back we will see.
No title on no budget, not planning/letting Inigo for free, no stadium, uncertainty about pre-season and more players leaving, failed promises on big signings.
Let's just narrow it down to defense then. They expect great performances there with even worse line than last season. And as Frenkie honestly said last night, it wasn't that good last year either. Maybe the solution is to put mighty Martin or Cubarsi in? Those are the best names on the bench. Astralaga too lately.
Solution is, primarily, to get back to pressing. Team runs significantly less than last season and this is where problems start. It's either that or play more conservatively and abandon high press. But if you do that prepare to be able to defend more. But then we're back at main question: With what players? Compare that last line with other top clubs. And accept the fact we don't have real DMs either.
Flick is doing best with what he's given. Once real captain of this team
is back we will see.
Horatio
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Negative titles in Catalan Sport. Questioning Flick, Rashford (it's always the non-Spaniard), Henry criticizing Barca.
No title on no budget, not planning/letting Inigo for free, no stadium, uncertainty about pre-season and more players leaving, failed promises on big signings.
Let's just narrow it down to defense then. They expect great performances there with even worse line than last season. And as Frenkie honestly said last night, it wasn't that good last year either. Maybe the solution is to put mighty Martin or Cubarsi in? Those are the best names on the bench. Astralaga too lately.
Solution is, primarily, to get back to pressing. Team runs significantly less than last season and this is where problems start. It's either that or play more conservatively and abandon high press. But if you do that prepare to be able to defend more. But then we're back at main question: With what players? Compare that last line with other top clubs. And accept the fact we don't have real DMs either.
Flick is doing best with what he's given. Once real captain of this team
What I have been sayin
malvolio
Senior Member
Yeah, at least people are waking up about the whole genius manager shenanigans.
Manager won't do shit without some good players.
That doesn't mean you have to look like a fool vs FC Brugge though.
serghei
Senior Member
Meh, any manager does his best with what he's given. This is not anything impressive and only something that applies to Flick. The best thing he did last season was make the players improve themselves and put in a harder effort than normally. If that doesn't apply anymore, we're shite to look at. Unless you are masochistic and like seeing us ripped to shreads by any decent team.
Considering his entire and only tactical plan is based on everyone running non stop, he'd better find a way to make that happening or else we're looking at nothing this season, and we're running the risk of not even competing, let alone win things. Maybe a Copa if we get some lucky draw.
Now, we're not yet at disaster levels this season, but we're approaching that area with how our defense looks.
Considering his entire and only tactical plan is based on everyone running non stop, he'd better find a way to make that happening or else we're looking at nothing this season, and we're running the risk of not even competing, let alone win things. Maybe a Copa if we get some lucky draw.
Now, we're not yet at disaster levels this season, but we're approaching that area with how our defense looks.
Haraldinho
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I want to invite him to leave anyway.
jamrock
Senior Member
In the summer we get a CB or two
Raphinha and Garcia is back and we'll see how he looks next year.
We'll still ship goals for fun, but we should start scoring 4 per game again.
It's kind of insane that a team needs 4 goals to feel secure in every game, but that's the coach we have, at least it's fun
Raphinha and Garcia is back and we'll see how he looks next year.
We'll still ship goals for fun, but we should start scoring 4 per game again.
It's kind of insane that a team needs 4 goals to feel secure in every game, but that's the coach we have, at least it's fun
iniestaGOAT
Senior Member
We embarrassing ourselves vs broke European and la liga scrub teams now.
No excuses.
We got better players than these scrubs yet we come out as laughing stock.
But who's surprised? Tactics are a joke
Give this fool any CB in the world we are still getting cooked
No excuses.
We got better players than these scrubs yet we come out as laughing stock.
But who's surprised? Tactics are a joke
Give this fool any CB in the world we are still getting cooked
HeadElastico
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Pointless to talk about how he is doing 'the best with what he can' and that 'if we had to defend deeper we'd be worse cause we have shit defenders'.
How much worse would we be doing exactly? We would be conceding 4, 5 or 6 goals instead of the 3 and 4 we conceding now? Or is it that we are scoring goals exclusively due to winning the ball back in high areas with the opponent completely OUT of shape? Because that almost never happens lol.
Barca has to break teams constantly with 11 men behind the ball because everyone knows it takes little effort to punt one through ball through to make a 1 v 1 against us. So not only is the defending crap, it literally makes it even harder for us to score than if they opened up a bit more.
Complete and utter madness in any objective evaluation of the situation by anyone who can understand the most basic concepts of football.
How much worse would we be doing exactly? We would be conceding 4, 5 or 6 goals instead of the 3 and 4 we conceding now? Or is it that we are scoring goals exclusively due to winning the ball back in high areas with the opponent completely OUT of shape? Because that almost never happens lol.
Barca has to break teams constantly with 11 men behind the ball because everyone knows it takes little effort to punt one through ball through to make a 1 v 1 against us. So not only is the defending crap, it literally makes it even harder for us to score than if they opened up a bit more.
Complete and utter madness in any objective evaluation of the situation by anyone who can understand the most basic concepts of football.
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