Hans-Dieter Flick

[MasQueCulé]

At this point, this looks closer to the end of his time here than next gear from last season as we hoped. And the worst part is nothing is happening, not a single thing is changed, we look worse and worse. It seems like the more time he has to train the defense the dumber we get.

Damn thanks to you guys i'm losing hope :/

 

[serghei]

anyone can put 5 past us, that's the issue. we need balance. Flick had fuxked up, and it's fine, but what isn't , is his amazing stubbornness.
this system is not viable for this squad (or any other imo). just play regularl defensive line you German twat.

There are some types of squads who could carry this system, especially if you are loaded with athletic players left and right capable of running at the intensity he naively expects for 90 mins. But even in perfect conditions, with this much chaos at the back, any good team can fuck you up.

Anyhow, if his plan is to basically run like crazy non-stop, and that's it, there's nothing else behind it to support it tactically, it's a folly. No matter if you don't run at the level of last season, you can't make teams like Brugges cut you apart almost at will.

 

[Raketa10]

Every single player except Fermin is worse than last season so this has to be on Flick. He simply does not want to change anything.

 

[jamrock]

Everyone is off form
Fitness issues
Tactically inflexibility

 

[Raketa10]

Chelsea will kill us...

 

[JohnN]

fitness issues perhaps from sprinting 20 times a game, everygame to track back counter after counter

 

[serghei]

The way we defend, you can't help but get the feeling that the players have no real template to work with. It's all very chaotic off the ball. Nobody knows what to do, players missing from positions regularly to do some Rambo style press up front, completely broken apart.

 

[jamrock]

Cesc is up next if flick leaves

 

[Raketa10]

Everyone is off form
Fitness issues
Tactically inflexibility

He always brakes during his second season. We are absolutely horrible.

 

[DonAK]

For his system to work you need the pressing to be great and cohesive.

You also need athletic defenders and midfielders that aren't mentally retarded.
Our defenders are slow and lack brain cells. Kounde and Araujo are not technically slow, but the former turns around like a ship and Araujo is just dumb.

You have to adjust.

 

[serghei]

For his system to work you need the pressing to be great and cohesive.

You also need athletic defenders and midfielders that aren't mentally retarded.
Our defenders are slow and lack brain cells. Kounde and Araujo are not technically slow, but the former turns around like a ship and Araujo is just dumb.

You have to adjust.

Pressing like he does it is only as good as your worst presser off the ball. It's as simple as that. He sets no scale of priorities. It's press everything that moves. It's all nice in theory, but it's rather shite in practice.

With all the top tier managers, you see plans in motion and fallback actions. What to do here if press fails, how to contain zones positionally. With Flick, the only outcome is picking the ball from your own net.

 

[Raketa10]

Cesc is up next if flick leaves

I don't know who is next but with this type of defending this season will be a nightmare.

 

[DonAK]

Pressing like he does it is only as good as your worst presser off the ball. It's as simple as that. He sets no scale of priorities. It's press everything that moves.

I don't think he want three of his players to press one guy to be honest.

It's a combination of not very good tactics, at least in our current situation, and dumbass players as I said in the chat.

 

[Rassvet]

@topt got mad flack for trying to warn people about second season Flick in the summer

 

[jairzinho]

Prime Pep/Klopp would at least tweak the system to minimize the damage being done to our shit defense.

Not disputing this. Conceding 3 against Brugge is criminal.