Ibrahim Diarra

[jamrock]

This is your typical tactic of taking things into personal discussion and brings history of posts (half of the time not even correctly) that is irrelevant.

You messed up, get corrected, move on.

I addressed the Flick question in his thread anyway. It isn't like you actually made a point that couldn't be addressed

How is saying you walked away personal? It's a fact that whenever your opinion is weighed and found wanting, you go silent and act as if you don't have time for the discussion, when the truth is your point has been found wanting. See the discussion about Zubi, LOL.

I made a mistake; you needed to dive headfirst into talking about years and what players from Mali could do, an unnecessary clarification.

When the point being made was clear: his injuries and lack of real development in mali could affect his development and if he cover comes it to make it at the elite level it's to his credit.

You have made no point in the CB discussion. Your view is that it's the personnel, not the system, that is making Barcelona concede so many goals.

When confronted with the defense and keeper he had at Bayern and the fact that he conceded the same amount of goals, you again do what you always do when your opinion is found wanting: disappear.

These are just simple facts.

What you should have simply said was, "He's actually been signed for two years." I would have said, "I stand corrected," but no, you had to try to make some nonsense point on this one, but then ghost whenever your opinions are found wanting by facts.

 

[JamDav1982]

He literally developed in Mali to one of best players in his age at the U-17 World Cup.

To make out a few more months there is somehow dead development time makes no sense.

If La Masia was all encompassing he wouldnt have been better than many of his team mates in the Juv A side that won the Youth League and had been at Barca for years.

Effectively he carried on the same development in Mali for another year or so.. a path that had got him to one of best players at youth World Cup and a move to Barcelona.

Then he arrived at Barca and played half a year and got injured in summer missing a few months.

 

[jamrock]

@khaled_a_d

You just can't have such a poor take on a player like zubi, which is been a constant take by the way & then proceed to tell us with the most confidence what his qualities are and what he can & can't excel at

I'm sorry I wasn't going to make that one slide, which is why I brought it up.

Which wasn't personal that was just the truth, the truth can be an offense but never a sin.

 

[JamDav1982]

Lot of arrogance about Zubimendi from someone who didnt want Barca to sign him when linked under Xavi.

 

[khaled_a_d]

How is saying you walked away personal? It's a fact that whenever your opinion is weighed and found wanting, you go silent and act as if you don't have time for the discussion, when the truth is your point has been found wanting. See the discussion about Zubi, LOL

I said what I said in the Zubi discussion, didn't find a worthy response, and didn't waste my time. Unlike you, I don't need to enter endless discussion on a forum. You, a lot of the times, lack any grasp of complex ideas, it is mostly black or white for you. You literally denied that some facts happened.

And you personalize discussions, you go on any thread about defenders, and say look, khaled doesn't know how to rate a CB. And then mention things that didn't happen.

It is a weak and lame strategy, instead of even presenting a discussion or a case for your argument, you just deflect that the one you are responding doesn't know what he is talking about. When the same could easily be done to you, considering how high you rated Faye for example, or plenty of other stupid takes, like the rest of us.

You do the same with Jammy, the moment you see a discussion about midfield, you deflect it into De Jong.

You did the same the later post you had, bring another discussion you think you won, to make yourself feels better about the argument.

All instead of realising you made a stupid post, and moving on.

 

[jamrock]

I said what I said in the Zubi discussion, didn't find a worthy response, and didn't waste my time. Unlike you, I don't need to enter endless discussion on a forum. You, a lot of the times, lack any grasp of complex ideas, it is mostly black or white for you. You literally denied that some facts happened.

And you personalize discussions, you go on any thread about defenders, and say look, khaled doesn't know how to rate a CB. And then mention things that didn't happen.

It is a weak and lame strategy, instead of even presenting a discussion or a case for your argument, you just deflect that the one you are responding doesn't know what he is talking about. When the same could easily be done to you, considering how high you rated Faye for example, or plenty of other stupid takes, like the rest of us.

You do the same with Jammy, the moment you see a discussion about midfield, you deflect it into De Jong.

All crap you just said, I don't even engage with jamdav most of the times these days so nonsense.

De jong is just too easy with jamdav, I say his name and I know he'll come running in 😆

You have the time and do engage in endless discussion you're literally doing it now, you're evaluation of players are just way off the mark more often than not, and I will always highlight that.

You don't like it, oh well, matters not to me, the truth if an offense but never a sin.

Every debate I entire in here I back them with nothing but facts are using superior understanding of the game to say something way before others think it to be the case, only for time to prove me right 90% of the times.

You aren't the best at evaluating talent that's just the truth, deal with it.

 

[JamDav1982]

Lot of deflection from Jamrock to veer away from a moronic point about Diarras development as if have a clue.

Strange hill to die on Zubimendi when didnt want Xavi to sign him when first linked.

Such a talent scout who to this day still thinks Casado is better than FDJ.

 

[jamrock]

@khaled_a_d I rated Faye, you rated Mbacke for fucks sake 😂😂.

You didn't rate

Balde
Cucu
Grimaldo
Cubarsi ( said the kid was poor since day one, I didn't rate him, but none with a understanding of the game can seriously claim that)
Zubi

I could name 100 names, all my takes are here, I don't delete, when I make a bad claim I own it, but they are few are far between.

That's why you nor anyone else can quote me directly on any of them when we entire these debates lol.

 

[JamDav1982]

Everyone makes bad takes.. and takes also evolve over time as players grow or see more of them.