serghei
Senior Member
VIP money is also a blurry subject. The club sold exploatation rights, not the seats themselves. That is constant yearly revenue.
VIP money is also a blurry subject. The club sold exploatation rights, not the seats themselves. That is constant yearly revenue.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
When does this decision free up 250-300m for Barca to spend on players?
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Which was always the plan but they expected more for it but got desperate is what is reported and signed off earlier than expected and for less income.
serghei
Senior Member
As soon as it is possible I guess. You seem to be overly critical on Laporta, despite the guy being the architect of our greatest sides.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
You said this decision frees that up.
When and how?
I know the answer will have no substance but will make you give it.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
The stadium is supposed to be the best in the world... generating the most income in the world.
Saying 'it pays for itself' is a shitty argument as it is about maximising benefits of it not just breaking even or slightly better in comparison to when it was built.
There is already well over a billion of future income give up in levers. Maybe more in these undervalued long term sponsorships.
Lets just give up another 300m room in transfer market in the future...
That is awful argument.
Saying 'it pays for itself' is a shitty argument as it is about maximising benefits of it not just breaking even or slightly better in comparison to when it was built.
There is already well over a billion of future income give up in levers. Maybe more in these undervalued long term sponsorships.
Lets just give up another 300m room in transfer market in the future...
That is awful argument.
serghei
Senior Member
It's not probably. They are gonna use the extra revenue to buy players, not pay the debt in advance most likely.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Clearly and it needs to be maximised not just constantly pushed back to increase debt further.
When do Barca get 300m to spend due to this decision to move back the debt?
serghei
Senior Member
I have no idea. It depends on club's internal accounting. But the logic says that the payments have been pushed because the club would be under pressure to pay them in near future and still find funds to upgrade the squad.
Struggle to find any other logical explanation. The idea that Laporta did this out of spite, to give a poisoned chalice to the next board is far fetched.
The base idea you have to build your arguments on is that Laporta didn't need to come back and take the club from Bartomeu. He could have just kept out, and let the club go to shite.
Already created possibly the greatest club side ever seen under Pep, his legacy here is still huge even if he doesn't step in that mess in 2021.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
You claimed that the club needs investment of 250-300m now.. so you must have some clue of when that will come due to this decision.
As expected not.
The logic suggests the payments have been pushed back as the stadium is behind schedule and the club have made a mess of the finances. Selling VIP seats earlier and for less than expected.
They will let future boards deal with it and mess made.
As expected not.
The logic suggests the payments have been pushed back as the stadium is behind schedule and the club have made a mess of the finances. Selling VIP seats earlier and for less than expected.
They will let future boards deal with it and mess made.
jamrock
Senior Member
Loan about proximity 1.5b
Interesting rate 3%
APR daily, can do monthly, either way this is key in your calculator.
Loan length 30 years.
Repayment: proximity 80m per year
Projected revenue growth conservatively 180m more per year, even if your adjust for sale of VIP seats.
Because that sale of VIP seats, is 1 standard stuff and will be used to do something that brings more value today.
TIME
VALUE
OF
Money & opportunity cost is key on that one
Conclusion Future the future board is fucked.
Interesting rate 3%
APR daily, can do monthly, either way this is key in your calculator.
Loan length 30 years.
Repayment: proximity 80m per year
Projected revenue growth conservatively 180m more per year, even if your adjust for sale of VIP seats.
Because that sale of VIP seats, is 1 standard stuff and will be used to do something that brings more value today.
TIME
VALUE
OF
Money & opportunity cost is key on that one
Conclusion Future the future board is fucked.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Time Value concept shown to have no clue about with Nike deal.
Wrong here also as it ignores the fact Barca pay back more due to interest payments etc.
Try again.
Your figures are wrong also.
Wrong here also as it ignores the fact Barca pay back more due to interest payments etc.
Try again.
Your figures are wrong also.
serghei
Senior Member
I don't like seeing fans constantly jump on the best president the club had. If Laporta, the best president this club had, does not manage to make the model function, then for me it's even more indication the model is unsustainable. And the discussion about private ownership in FC Barcelona, at least partly, is a mere question of when not if.
I highly doubt the next president after Laporta is gonna have to deal with the mess Laporta took on in these 4 years. Net spent on squad at Championship levels in England, with every player registration being a legal battle and an exercise of imagination and rule loopholes chase.
I highly doubt the next president after Laporta is gonna have to deal with the mess Laporta took on in these 4 years. Net spent on squad at Championship levels in England, with every player registration being a legal battle and an exercise of imagination and rule loopholes chase.
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