jamrock
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Where did France get money from to invest in there league and they can't even get a TV deal or did I miss something?
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Where did France get money from to invest in there league and they can't even get a TV deal or did I miss something?
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serghei
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It's not very weak. We just went to Valladolid and Leganes last season, two relegated teams and barely forked out a win with some last ditch saves. La Liga is a very competitive league with fierce local rivalries. Despite the lower teams not having money anywhere near the level of the big teams they always give 100% against bigger clubs and the pressure is high.
We even lost to Leganes and Las Palmas at home, 18th and 19th place btw.
This goes way back. Back when Hercules beat us in our peak Barca days, we lost a league to Levante and Granada with Koeman in the end stretch of last season, and that was Messi Barcelona, and so on.
The league is very strong, just not as strong as EPL in its mid section.
Barcelona and Madrid wouldn't drop from CL places in England either. Maybe once or twice every 20 years. It's a non argument. We're talking about the biggest clubs in the world, doubt they'd fear likes of Tottenham, Villa, Arsenal and others. There's a reason Spanish sides have a clear winning record against English counterparts.
Ronaldinho Barca, Pep Barca, MSN Barca, today's Barca... all of those would have dominated EPL just like they did Spain. You can make a case that the worst of Barcelona, the one from 2021-2023, in those 1-2 seasons would have failed to make top 4. That's about it. 1-2 seasons out of 20.
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serghei
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People got caught in the EPL hype, that's all there is to it. You read here, and you'd think AM is some sort of Everton. You look in their team, and you see some star World Cup winners from France and Argentina.
AM would be up there in EPL as well, fighting for top 4 every season and making it most often. Top 4 instead of Top 3, that's the difference. I've always said La Liga needs a 4th horsemen to join Barca, Madrid, and in recent decades AM.
Btw, Atletico Madrid record vs English teams is 13 wins, 12 draws, 10 defeats. That's them vs England's best teams btw. Not some Bournemouth or Burnley.
AM would be up there in EPL as well, fighting for top 4 every season and making it most often. Top 4 instead of Top 3, that's the difference. I've always said La Liga needs a 4th horsemen to join Barca, Madrid, and in recent decades AM.
Btw, Atletico Madrid record vs English teams is 13 wins, 12 draws, 10 defeats. That's them vs England's best teams btw. Not some Bournemouth or Burnley.
jamrock
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World of difference from saying La Liga is not as strong as the EPL, it isn't they have money, la Liga as Tebas.
To saying La Liga isn't far off the French league 😂.
Guy have no freaking idea, he just talks non stop bullshit.
La Liga not having the resources of the EPL doesn't stop teams from competing though whenever they meet in Europe.
To saying La Liga isn't far off the French league 😂.
Guy have no freaking idea, he just talks non stop bullshit.
La Liga not having the resources of the EPL doesn't stop teams from competing though whenever they meet in Europe.
serghei
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The problem for EPL sides is that the majority of the biggest talents are now concentrated at Madrid, Barcelona, and PSG. They can spend and spend, they won't be able to sign players like Yamal, PSG's stars, and Madrid's stars.
In fact, Madrid signed Arnold for EPL. A player from the Champions of England signing for Madrid. That's the difference. It's much more likely for MVPs from EPL to make the next step to La Liga giants, than viceversa.
In fact, Madrid signed Arnold for EPL. A player from the Champions of England signing for Madrid. That's the difference. It's much more likely for MVPs from EPL to make the next step to La Liga giants, than viceversa.
Maradona37
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De Bruyne and Salah were better in the last ten years than the current level of any attacker currently at those three clubs not named Yamal.
serghei
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Don't think so. Vincius, Mbappe are better players. Salah was very disappointing in recent years, his form particularly in Europe declined a lot. Complete ghost vs PSG.
Maradona37
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Also, PL has always supplied players to the two Clasico clubs. That's because Real madrid and Barcelona are the two biggest clubs in the world. It says nothing about the overall strength of the league.
Maradona37
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Vinicius and Mbappe are better players than peak Salah and De Bruyne?
I think you're absolutely delusional, but you and I often clash on football. Vinicius isn't even that good. Mbappe is a speed merchant.
serghei
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Absolutely. Peak Mbappe scored a hattrick in World Cup final. Different level. Peak Vinicius was instrumental in winning 2 Champions Leagues.
Maradona37
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I mean anyone who thinks Vinicius has ever been better than peak De Bruyne should be following a different sport. But that's just my opinion, like.
Maradona37
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Aye cos he plays for France. Two were penalties and he was invisible until the 80th minute.
Vinicius scored the winner twice while doing fuck all the rest of the game. Moments player.
Circumstances don't change my opinion that Salah and especially De Bruyne have a good degree more football talent than them players.
serghei
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We have a definition in football for players who step up in big games and decide matches. They call them clutch. Vinicius did it for Madrid repeatedly, when it was time for Salah to do it, he wasn't able to.
Of course Salah is easier on the eye, while Vinicius is a prick, but that's besides the point.
Maradona37
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Clutch is a horrible Americanised term that nobody who is a proper football fan cares about.
Salah played equally well in the 2022 CL Final, the difference is Courtois saved his shots (even when placed in the corner) and Vinicius scored his. Fine margins and says absolutely fuck all about who is better at football.
Your problem is you think you can rate a player's individual football talent by specific moments. That's the sort of reasoning Ronaldo fanboys give for him being better than Messi.
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