Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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freetocan

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Think Raphinha scored in min 87 or something. So we had 5-7 minutes left. If Flick wanted the team to drop back, he would have instructed them to do that. I didn't see any close up with him making gestures hinting he wants the team to change the approach.

It's almost as if there was no reaction to the Raphinha goal. Nothing changed in our approach after the goal until the Acerbi goal.

Think his instincts are full on offense, and he simply needs to contain that and think more clearly at certain moments. It seemed he could not make the tactical adjustments after Raphinha's goal in time.
That’s true, if you guys noticed he needs a lot of time to decide any subs in any previous games. In most of them he start subbing in about 70 min with one or two. Many times he do not make all allowed subs. He is very latent in thinking and that was costing us so much yesterday. If you read my postings, I already criticized him about this aspect. Just one ex: most of the games Flopski was literally useless, he did not take decision to sub him till about 86-88 min with either Torres or Pau Victor. In my opinion, unacceptable for Kipling him so long.
So, clearly he is definitely not a quick acting / deciding guy. He needs tooooo much time till take an action. Even yesterday, Inter subbed all 5 allowable, he subbed 4 if I am not mistaken.
By saying that, I truly believe that if he should have sub FdY instead of Pedri, we might have a win yesterday. I know that Pedri made a fantastic effort entire game and maybe was completely tired. But even though, with him on pitch, we could look more safe.
 

Porque

Senior Member
They are changing it next year. They finally realised the logical thing is that return leg will always be in the home of the higher ranked team in league stage.
Yeah, but their also thinking about removing same country nations from being able to face each other until the quarters.

So they take a step forward in one thing, and two steps back in another.
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
Hey guys, I am a newer barca fan. Did this game (in your opinions), rank worse than the Anfield incident? My father is an Atletico fan and I vividly remember that night, would you guys say that today was really worse than that?
No although both are very heartbreaking

Reason is this time we fought and showed some character. Anfield was an absolutely shameful performance for the history of this club. This is not, this was an all out war over two legs which we lost and could have easily won as well - details have decided

Also this time there is reason for hope. The squad is young and they need learning experience to win more in the future. On Anfield we had a bunch of fat old finished greats who already achieved a lot and there was no reason to believe the embarrassment would push them to go harder and smarter next years

Very heartbreaking but nothing like the European humiliations this club experienced in the past 10 seasons
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
Great football doesn't rely on gimmicky offside trap however well it's worked this season. Problem is we've relied on this gimmick so much our defenders rarely have to defend properly where they're caught deer in headlights in clutch non-offside moments. Without semi-automated and VAR how many goals would we have conceded with offside toes no one would've even known occurred five years ago.
Overreliance on offside stopped in second half of the season. Offside trap is a good thing if you have smart defenders actually, we don't.

Problem is people's perception of the high line literally varies from game to game. When we have a goal fest, when football is outstanding and opponent is getting crushed to death - it's all beautiful, it's genius. When we concede goals as a by product of it - it's foolish, it's dumb, naive.
 

freetocan

Member
He gave us the hope and then he took it away. Master and destroyer all into one. He needs to kill the voice in his head that tells him stupid things and unleash the full master. Somewhere in there, there's a genius football manager, but there's a part that spoils it. Problem is it's burried so deep in his brain, I fear it's difficult to remove.
Feel exactly the same. He proved that too many times tbh.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Overreliance on offside stopped in second half of the season. Offside trap is a good thing if you have smart defenders actually, we don't.

Problem is people's perception of the high line literally varies from game to game. When we have a goal fest, when football is outstanding and opponent is getting crushed to death - it's all beautiful, it's genius. When we concede goals as a by product of it - it's foolish, it's dumb, naive.

It stopped in the 2nd half of the season and started again at the worse possible time.
 

Porque

Senior Member
It doesn't really mean shit though.

I'm reading people say how PSG played a perfect tie, yet despite playing pragmatic and on the counter, Arsenal went out because they couldn't finish an open goal to go 2-2.

The margins and moments are always there that there isn't a single narrative.

The Flickball against Atleti was far more damning. That was a giveaway thanks to the suicidal football, from 4-2 to 4-4. We played the return leg far more pragmatically too.

I'm sure Flick would have loved to do that here too, but we started great but then went 2-0 down after of an amateur Olmo turnover and then a Martin loose pass converted to a penalty giveaway.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
It doesn't really mean shit though.

I'm reading people say how PSG played a perfect tie, yet despite playing pragmatic and on the counter, Arsenal went out because they couldn't finish an open goal to go 2-2.

The margins and moments are always there that there isn't a single narrative.

The Flickball against Atleti was far more damning. That was a giveaway thanks to the suicidal football, from 4-2 to 4-4. We played the return leg far more pragmatically too.

They would still win 3-2 lol.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Were any of goals we conceded against Inter a matter of failed offside trap? I don't think so

Fail in what sense?

For the first 2 goals, the defense was too high once inter broke through, nothing we could really do.

If we sat in a mid block chances are they don't happen
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
Fail in what sense?

For the first 2 goals, the defense was too high once inter broke through, nothing we could really do.

If we sat in a mid block chances are they don't happen
If we sat in a mid block chances are also we don't put 6 past the best defense itw
 

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