Hans-Dieter Flick

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

I swear some of you are so ungrateful. There isn't a manager in world football who isn't dependant on his star player(s). Rodri's absence derailed Pep's City while Lucho's PSG didn't look this formidable pre-Dembele's resurgence, even tactical genuis Inzaghi didn't look good without Dumfries - Thuram and had to rush them back to save his season.

What makes a manager stand out is how well he's able to elevate the performances of the rest of the squad. As it stands, Flick has done a better job than his predecessor. Any potential treble with this squad, for me, will trump Pep's and Lucho's who had generational players all over the pitch. Flick's Barca has TWO. Interestingly both Pep and Lucho have gone on to manage clubs having limitless resources while Flick's having to contend with a lesser squad and season long administrative and financial troubles, and still deliver. This is applause worthy and any attempts to undermine his work deserves to be called out.

Well said 👍👍🔥

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Barca universal knows ball
@Temptation @Rassvet @Fati_Future_BallonDor @BBZ8800 @M3ls @malvolio @Horatio

The one and only 🔥🔥

Inzhagi is great but in tactial knowledge he isnt half of EV 💯

 

[serghei]

You can argue if he had 'top top players' at Bayern but if players like Gnabry, Goretzka, Davies, Kimmich are 'top top players' , then what is Barca's golden generation, Real from 2016-18 ? At Barca ppl said 2 years ago we should sell 80% of our players and tbh except Lamine and Pedri who would be an easy starter in any team itw? Our main starter is nearly 40.
And as barcaman said Tottenham isnt playing for the treble with top2 football in the world. I like you Sergh but this post is the worst you made since youre here at barcaforum 👎

What are you talking about? Our team is higher rated than Inter's. Shitting on the current players and making it seem that Flick is elevating some mediocrities is appalling and totally unfair to these players. Flick didn't create La Masia. He benefits hugely from it. The squad was progressing before Flick got here. Euro was won with a Barca core before Flick came on. Of course he is doing a great work, but let's not behave like the team is not filled with quality in every area.

Flick is quite similar to Pep. His football would not work at small clubs. He is a great manager that needs top players for his philosophy to work.

 

[Horatio]

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Never doubted BU

 

[jamrock]

People are crazy trying to turn flick into a miracle worker as if these players weren't producing before him, at various clubs and at our club.

The lewa numbers now compared to his last season put that to rest really quick.

He's exactly where he was his first season as it relates to total goal Contributions and only 7 more than last season in the same number of games.

So yea take those facts and process your your feelings.

He's doing a great job, but let's not down play excellent players to make him into some form of demi god that's putting together a rag tag team of players who are average at best and turning them into world beaters.

 

[serghei]

People are crazy trying to turn flick into a miracle worker as if these players weren't producing before him, at various clubs and at our club.

The lewa numbers now compared to his last season put that to rest really quick.

He's exactly where he was his first season as it relates to total goal Contributions and only 7 more than last season in the same number of games.

So yea take those facts and process your your feelings.

He's doing a great job, but let's not down play excellent players to make him into some form of demi god that's putting together a rag tag team of players who are average at best and turning them into world beaters.

Yeah, a poor take. Flick could go at Tottenham and make Bryan Johnson play like Yamal, and Kulusevski like Raphinha as an inverted winger.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

What are you talking about? Our team is higher rated than Inter's. Shitting on the current players and making it seem that Flick is elevating some mediocrities is appalling and totally unfair to these players. Flick didn't create La Masia. He benefits hugely from it. The squad was progressing before Flick got here. Euro was won with a Barca core before Flick came on. Of course he is doing a great work, but let's not behave like the team is not filled with quality in every area.

Flick is quite similar to Pep. His football would not work at small clubs. He is a great manager that needs top players for his philosophy to work.

I see Serghclowny is begging for his L! I never said this team is Almeria lvl but would you have expected to perform with this team like we did the entire season, scoring more goals than with MSN + Iniesta, humilating Real 3 times, destroying Bayern after getting beaten by them for years and now standing in cl semi final?? His system is making every player better, way better. Look at Bayern after Hansi left them, they are dreaming since then to reach a final again and play beautiful offense football.

We cant say yet if he is able to coach a small club but we can surely say he can make a good team to a WORLDCLASS team!

 

[MonteCuler]

Flick's system maximizes the output of every forward, this is a fact. How much we create and how well drilled the attack is, if you play regulary you are guaranteed to get solid g/a stats.

I don't think Raphinha would be hitting these numbers this season under any other manager. Same goes for 37 year old Lewa who is top scorer in Europe.

Flick gives them the platform for immense offensive output and they deliver. It's not really taking anything away from the players. They are brilliant at doing what they are tasked to do.

 

[serghei]

I see Serghclowny is begging for his L! I never said this team is Almeria lvl but would you have expected to perform with this team like we did the entire season, scoring more goals than with MSN + Iniesta, humilating Real 3 times, destroying Bayern after getting beaten by them for years and now standing in cl semi final?? His system is making every player better, way better. Look at Bayern after Hansi left them, they are dreaming since then to reach a final again and play beautiful offense football.

We cant say yet if he is able to coach a small club but we can surely say he can make a good team to a WORLDCLASS team!

You don't know what you're talking about. His system is making players better, but you need top players for it. Quite simple to understand this if you put a minimum effort into it. The players that cost us before Flick, the poor depth, they are costing us with him as well. Barca have a very talented team and a top first 11, but the squad is thin. To go from this to saying the team is not that good and Flick is doing miracles with it is absurd.

He is maximizing the team potential no doubt, but this is Barca level potential. Don't smear the club and make it seem like Flick is performing miracles. It's untrue and unfair, for the work of Laporta, previous manager, La Masia, and other factors that contributed to this. Flick himself would laugh at a stupid claim like this.

 

[jamrock]

Balde: literally playing in the exact same way he did when we won the league, EXACTLY.

Cubarsi: Generational thanks Xavi.

Martinez: always been a top defender in la Liga, Barca forum being fools last season doesn't change that.

Kounde: been highly rated since his Sevilla days, what are we even talking about with him seriously.

Pedri: everyone with two brain cells knows a fit pedri with 6 games under his belt, is the world class.

Olmo we saw what he could do at the euros.

Yamal:

Raphinha always been clutch for us, step it up this season.

Lewa, see post above.

That's our starting XI, could do the same for the entire squad.

Flick doing an incredible job, easily manager of the year and as I've said multiple times, this would probably be the best treble ever, but he's doing it with a very talented squad, that only real issue is a bit of depth at FB and DM.

 

[Temptation]

People are crazy trying to turn flick into a miracle worker as if these players weren't producing before him, at various clubs and at our club.

The lewa numbers now compared to his last season put that to rest really quick.

He's exactly where he was his first season as it relates to total goal Contributions and only 7 more than last season in the same number of games.

So yea take those facts and process your your feelings.

He's doing a great job, but let's not down play excellent players to make him into some form of demi god that's putting together a rag tag team of players who are average at best and turning them into world beaters.

The impressive thing is him competing for a treble with the lack of squad depth while playing very entertaining football.

The change in mentality and fitness is impressive. Barca never give up in games. You always feel like you can outscore your opponents.

He has completely transformed players like Raphinha, Inigo, FDJ, Casado, Ferran, etc.

Players like RL9, Yamal, Pedri always had the quality and talent. They would thrive under any manager. You're spot on there.

Kounde, Cubarsi, Olmo, Balde were already great players too.

But Barca's squad depth is a joke and the way Flick has still managed things in all competitions is very impressive.

Flick has a very talented starting 11. There's no doubt about that. One of the very best in the world.

 

[serghei]

Flick's system maximizes the output of every forward, this is a fact. How much we create and how well drilled the attack is, if you play regulary you are guaranteed to get solid g/a stats.

I don't think Raphinha would be hitting these numbers this season under any other manager. Same goes for 37 year old Lewa who is top scorer in Europe.

Flick gives them the platform for immense offensive output and they deliver. It's not really taking anything away from the players. They are brilliant at doing what they are tasked to do.

That's different. He is the right manager for the right team and club. It takes two to dance.

 

[Temptation]

Balde: literally playing in the exact same way he did when we won the league, EXACTLY.

Cubarsi: Generational thanks Xavi.

Martinez: always been a top defender in la Liga, Barca forum being fools last season doesn't change that.

Kounde: been highly rated since his Sevilla days, what are we even talking about with him seriously.

Pedri: everyone with two brain cells knows a fit pedri with 6 games under his belt, is the world class.

Olmo we saw what he could do at the euros.

Yamal:

Raphinha always been clutch for us, step it up this season.

Lewa, see post above.

That's our starting XI, could do the same for the entire squad.

Largely agree with your post but he has massively improved Inigo, Raphinha, Ferran, FDJ.

All these players had talent and I'm not saying they were bums but Flick took them to a different level clearly.

Most fans would be perfectly fine with these players leaving before this season started and look at how well they're playing now.

 

[Joan]

No doubt Flick gets the most out of this squad, individually and collectively, quite obvious when compared to previous seasons when most if not all are playing on a higher level.

But cannot do that if the squad has no or little quality.

Very good players and what we really lack is depth.

 

[MonteCuler]

Flick just trusts in their ability because he's coaching Barcelona not Getafe, reality is you simply don't get to play for Barça first team by being an absolute bum in football, you simply need to have some exceptional qualities.