Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Flick is amazing. Give these set of players to everyone else and we get nowhere near this football and fighting on all fronts.
For years many of these players were mediocre or shat on and now many of the same people hail them as world class and expect walking over everyone on the way to treble.

Tek, Kounde, Balde, Inigo, Frenkie, Olmo, Raphi, Lewa... Ask yourselves what was your opinion in last few years.

It's the system that makes this all work and everyone rated higher than normal.
Except Lamine, that kid is magic.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
The opposite is also true. Flick couldn't do anything without some top top players like the ones Barca have, many of them Euro champions. He managed Bayern and Barca, not fecking Tottenham.

What's your point exactly? Tottenham is not fighting for a treble while playing best football in the world. Also smaller budget than Tottenham :lol:

Name a coach that would deliver this? What exactly was your expectations of this team in August? Lewa was ok? Raphi wasn't almost gone to Saudi Arabia? How was Kounde rated? Where was Inigo even? Wasn't Tek retired?
 

draconifire

NTC with a Positive attitude
Flick has a lot of blame to bear. Lack of rotation has now sidelined our two fullbacks for two crucial games.
Insisting on Martin as a backup when everyone and their mother sees he's shit.

But having said that, wouldn't take a single manager above him. He is simply the best, and we are playing the best version of football.
We scored 3 past Inter, who are supposed to have the best defence.

Quite confident that we would be better in the away leg. With Balde coming in, which allows Raph to be himself.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Our speed stats are fairly interesting, despite having quite a slow team by top speed we are running perhaps the most aggressive offensive and defensive system in world football with great success.

Excluding GKs

1st - Raphinha (34.7km/h)
2nd - Gerard Martin (34km/h)
3rd - Cuenca [Barca B] (33.6km/h)
4th - Araujo (33.2km/h)
5th - Balde (33.2km/h)
6th - Kounde (33km/h)
7th - Pau Victor (32.8km/h)
8th - Yamal (32.2km/h)
9th - Dominguez [Barca B], Lewandowski, Ferran Torres (32.1km/h)
12th - Fermin Lopez, Pau Cubarsi (31.8km/h)
14th - Inigo, Pedri (31.4km/h)
16th - Frenkie De Jong, Hector Fort (31.2km/h)
18th - Dani Olmo (30.5km/h)
19th - Ansu Fati (30km/h)
20th - Eric Garcia, Marc Casado (29.9 km/h)
22nd - Gavi (29.8km/h)
23rd - Pablo Torre (28.3km/h)
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
The opposite is also true. Flick couldn't do anything without some top top players like the ones Barca have, many of them Euro champions. He managed Bayern and Barca, not fecking Tottenham.

You can argue if he had 'top top players' at Bayern but if players like Gnabry, Goretzka, Davies, Kimmich are 'top top players' , then what is Barca's golden generation, Real from 2016-18 ? At Barca ppl said 2 years ago we should sell 80% of our players and tbh except Lamine and Pedri who would be an easy starter in any team itw? Our main starter is nearly 40.
And as barcaman said Tottenham isnt playing for the treble with top2 football in the world. I like you Sergh but this post is the worst you made since youre here at barcaforum 👎
 

zanela

Senior Member
I swear some of you are so ungrateful. There isn't a manager in world football who isn't dependant on his star player(s). Rodri's absence derailed Pep's City while Lucho's PSG didn't look this formidable pre-Dembele's resurgence, even tactical genuis Inzaghi didn't look good without Dumfries - Thuram and had to rush them back to save his season.

What makes a manager stand out is how well he's able to elevate the performances of the rest of the squad. As it stands, Flick has done a better job than his predecessor. Any potential treble with this squad, for me, will trump Pep's and Lucho's who had generational players all over the pitch. Flick's Barca has TWO. Interestingly both Pep and Lucho have gone on to manage clubs having limitless resources while Flick's having to contend with a lesser squad and season long administrative and financial troubles, and still deliver. This is applause worthy and any attempts to undermine his work deserves to be called out.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
I swear some of you are so ungrateful. There isn't a manager in world football who isn't dependant on his star player(s). Rodri's absence derailed Pep's City while Lucho's PSG didn't look this formidable pre-Dembele's resurgence, even tactical genuis Inzaghi didn't look good without Dumfries - Thuram and had to rush them back to save his season.

What makes a manager stand out is how well he's able to elevate the performances of the rest of the squad. As it stands, Flick has done a better job than his predecessor. Any potential treble with this squad, for me, will trump Pep's and Lucho's who had generational players all over the pitch. Flick's Barca has TWO. Interestingly both Pep and Lucho have gone on to manage clubs having limitless resources while Flick's having to contend with a lesser squad and season long administrative and financial troubles, and still deliver. This is applause worthy and any attempts to undermine his work deserves to be called out.

We don't give props for potential treble.
We ain't arsenal
We need one of the two
League or CL
 

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