La Liga 24/25

Who will win?


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JamDav1982

Senior Member
He has improved the players... just nonsense to suggest otherwise.

Very well coached side that is developing players.

Like every other coach gets credit when do same.. but usual folk have no clue.
 

soul24rage

Senior Member
Judging from the fixture lists, ATM has the easiest fixtures remaining out of the top 3 while Barca has the most difficult fixtures.

Hoping we beat ATM this month to give ourselves some breathing space.
 

Joan

Well-known member
Three weeks ago it was decided that the clubs would participate with the RFEF, CTA (Referees Committee) and La Liga in deciding how to reform the refereeing system, amid consistent and widespread complaints, albeit none openly making accusations of corruption and manipulation against one club as happened with Real Madrid. It was decided by a majority vote from Primera and Segunda that Real Betis, Sevilla, Albacete and Granada would be the clubs representing their interests on the Referee Reform Committee.

Real Madrid did stand for that committee, but received just four votes compared to the nine for Sevilla and twelve for Real Betis. However Marca are now reporting that Real Madrid will be present in those discussions alongside the elected representatives from Seville. n a decision taken by the RFEF and La Liga together, and agreed by Louzan and President Javier Tebas, Real Madrid have been invited to participate in the discussions.
Burn that club.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Come on, the merits of EV with Bilbao are clear. Their squad is a typical 4-6th team in Spain. EV is having them right near the best they can hope for with current squad. Only Bielsa achieved more with Bilbao in the last 15-20 years I think.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Judging from the fixture lists, ATM has the easiest fixtures remaining out of the top 3 while Barca has the most difficult fixtures.

Hoping we beat ATM this month to give ourselves some breathing space.

Winning away to Atletico is an absolute must. We lose there and it's goodbye league title. We have decent chances with a draw, but then we must beat Madrid.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Come on, the merits of EV with Bilbao are clear. Their squad is a typical 4-6th team in Spain. EV is having them right near the best they can hope for with current squad. Only Bielsa achieved more with Bilbao in the last 15-20 years I think.

Biesla didnt even come close to achieving more than EV.

This season A Bilbao will finish 4 or 5th and that would put their top 4 finishes in last 20 years being under EV in his two spells.. 4th and 5th first time round and again similar this.

Under Bielsa they were mid table really with a European final.

He also won their only trophy in the last 40 years.. unless count the Super Cup they won in his first spell.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Biesla didnt even come close to achieving more than EV.

This season A Bilbao will finish 4 or 5th and that would put their top 4 finishes in last 20 years being under EV in his two spells.. 4th and 5th first time round and again similar this.

He also won their only trophy in the last 40 years.. unless count the Super Cup they won in his first spell.

Didn't Bielsa take them to their only European final?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Didn't Bielsa take them to their only European final?

Losing a European Final while mid table is not close to the 4 best league finishes being under EV and actually winning something.. their only trophy in 40 years..Only two if want to count the Supercopa.

Valverde took Espanyol to a European final.. doesnt make his time there better than what he has done with Bilbao or even close.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Losing a European Final while mid table is not close to the 4 best league finishes being under EV and actually winning something.. their only trophy in 40 years.

Valverde took Espanyol to a European final.. doesnt make his time there better than what he has done with Bilbao.

I think it's the more notable performance personally than a top 4 finish. European finals are very big achievements. Bilbao knocked out United IIRC. And not this United, but Ferguson United.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Yeah getting to the Europa League final in 2012 was a great achievement, and that Athletic team was stunning to watch. But I agree with Jammie here - doing it consistently in the league is more impressive than a one-off knockout tournament (which can rely more on luck and hitting high peaks).
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I think it's the more notable performance personally than a top 4 finish. European finals are very big achievements.

No.. you are wrong on this.. EV has done a lot more at Bilbao than Bielsa did and their fans know it.

No one thinks Valverde taking Espanyol to a European final is more impressive than winning first cup in 40 years for Bilbao let alone league positions and taking CL football there.

Teams from Scotland have lost European finals in last 20 odd years multiple times.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
I think it's the more notable performance personally than a top 4 finish. European finals are very big achievements. Bilbao knocked out United IIRC. And not this United, but Ferguson United.
True but bear in mind that United dropped into the EL that season from the CL. You can say that was a fluke (they did come close to winning the league that year, the infamous Agueroooo season) but I think they were already into their decline (I think they were in decline even when they won title in 2013).
 

serghei

Senior Member
True but bear in mind that United dropped into the EL that season from the CL. You can say that was a fluke (they did come close to winning the league that year, the infamous Agueroooo season) but I think they were already into their decline (I think they were in decline even when they won title in 2013).

I don't think finishing 4th in the league is a better achievement than that, sorry. 4th in La Liga is not a huge feat imo. It's the spot that is up for grabs for several teams, BIlbao included.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
I don't think finishing 4th in the league is a better achievement than that, sorry. 4th in La Liga is not a huge feat imo. It's the spot that is up for grabs for several teams, BIlbao included.
Fair enough. You can debate it either way, I think you both have good points.

I will say it's difficult for other teams in La Liga. The clasico sides are far and away the most powerful and biggest teams, and Atletico have been great for over a decade too. 4th is sort of best of the rest. But yeah I'd like to see Athletic maybe break above 4th at some point. I doubt it will happen but will be good to see.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Fair enough. You can debate it either way, I think you both have good points.

I will say it's difficult for other teams in La Liga. The clasico sides are far and away the most powerful and biggest teams, and Atletico have been great for over a decade too. 4th is sort of best of the rest. But yeah I'd like to see Athletic maybe break above 4th at some point. I doubt it will happen but will be good to see.

It's best of the rest, also because teams like Valencia have dropped down a lot compared to 10-15 years ago. Usually Valencia was the team that made 4th the most I think way back.
 

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