Xavi Hernández

[mc_lovin]

Always thought you are Scottish

That's JamDav, no?

 

[Windhook]

That's JamDav, no?

Yep.

 

[Windhook]

I don't think we're in the position to talk about the Man City and PSGs of the World when we're one of the highest spending clubs in the last decade.

Devastating financial running of the club by Barto board it was, 480m in losses in the last year, a total of 1.35 billion in debt. That's the result of incompetence and at the same time acting competitive on the market.

 

[serghei]

Devastating financial running of the club by Barto board it was, 480m in losses in the last year, a total of 1.35 billion in debt. That's the result of incompetence and at the same time acting competitive on the market.

That's the problem. Other clubs (sheik or state-owned or whatever, idea is some dude with many billions owns the club) can afford flops amounting to 200-300m. We can't. That money has to be covered somehow by what the club generates.

I'm sure Bayern could spend 150m on a player if they want, but the risk is deemed too great, and pointless in the end. It's a business decision. You have to justify that spending with clear reasons, not pipe dreams.

How do you justify 300m spent on Coutinho and Dembele? Was either of them a World Cup winner or something? Were they golden boot winners, verified in CL by scoring in semifinals, final and such?

I think even Haaland is a risk for a huge sum. The only one who isn't a risk for 150m is Mbappe.

 

[DonAK]

I think Haaland is no risk for the 75m release clause he's rumored to cost, even if you have to pay him a high salary and huge commissions.

That's how highly I rate him.

Would only be a risk if we play him out of position.

 

[serghei]

I think Haaland is no risk for the 75m release clause he's rumored to cost, even if you have to pay him a high salary and huge commissions.

That's how highly I rate him.

Would only be a risk if we play him out of position.

Depends on the extent of commissions for the player and agent, salary. For 130m total, let's say 75 + 50m commission and signing on bonus, it's a risk. Not a huge one, but still a risk.

Mbappe is way more proven at the highest level.

 

[Windhook]

How do you justify 300m spent on Coutinho and Dembele?

You don't. Neymar's departure made Barto go nuts and had the worst people around him consulting about which fantastic player we should get to keep his reputation clean. Because Barto's reputation was everything all about at Barca post-Neymar.

 

[serghei]

You don't. Neymar's departure made Barto go nuts and had the worst people around him consulting about which fantastic player we should get to keep his reputation clean. Because Barto's reputation was everything all about at Barca post-Neymar.

Well, that's the problem. I don't think it would be a problem if you pay 150m for one of the best players in the world. But paying 150m for a promising player who's yet to prove anything really at the big level is crazy.

 

[serghei]

[MENTION=15376]DonAK[/MENTION], I would still buy Haaland for 125m in total if Barca could gather the funds and would have a better package to propose. Way more likely he'll be a new Lewandowski than a new Dembele.

 

[DonAK]

@DonAK, I would still buy Haaland for 125m in total if Barca could gather the funds and would have a better package to propose. Way more likely he'll be a new Lewandowski than a new Dembele.

Yeah.

Sadly we don't have the money after burning it on the Brazilian James Rodriguez and French Theo Walcott.

 

[Windhook]

Well, that's the problem. I don't think it would be a problem if you pay 150m for one of the best players in the world. But paying 150m for a promising player who's yet to prove anything really at the big level is crazy.

True. The club wasn't very sane making those decision that summer. I also understand the immense pressure from the community, back then we were among the top 3 contenders for CL nonetheless, but the club should have made more reasonable decisions.

 

[serghei]

True. The club wasn't very sane making those decision that summer. I also understand the immense pressure from the community, back then we were among the top 3 contenders for CL nonetheless, but the club should have made more reasonable decisions.

Should have splashed it on Mbappe who proved more in CL the season Monaco made the semis. Dembele didn't really have matches like that at the highest level in the Champions League, did he? He scored 6 goals in CL knockouts, that's like an impressive number.

 

[KingLeo10]

Should have splashed it on Mbappe who proved more in CL the season Monaco made the semis. Dembele didn't really have matches like that at the highest level in the Champions League did he?

Mbappe wasn't really that keen on coming here and playing a 2nd tier role to Messi and Suarez who at that point were still dominant. It's why he didn't opt for RM at the same time...no chance he'd get in ahead of CR7 and Benz.

 

[DonAK]

If we're ever going to sign a player for big money again that player need to:

1. Be signed for the actual position he is going to play in, if that position exists for us

2. Be dominant in the league and CL for more than one season

 

[serghei]

If we're ever going to sign a player for big money again that player need to:

1. Be signed for the actual position he is going to play in, if that position exists for us

2. Be dominant in the league and CL for more than one season

For sure. Has to be the closest you can get for a fixed world-class starter on the wing or at 9 for 5+ years. Then you can justify that sort of investment IF you have the money.

But even then, the player would only come if you have a team in place to fight for Champions League.