Josep Maria Bartomeu

[Sumlit]

Don't throw Rosell back in the mix to suit your argument.
Bartomeu has it's flaws as any previous president but he's no Rosell.

Bartomeu was Rosell's vise-president and closest ally, of course he shares in the Rosell debacle.

Are we going to say Bartomeu was completely ignorant of all Rosell's wrongdoings and is totally exempt from them? So either Bartomeu is complicit or incompetent.

 

[JamDav1982]

He's no Rosell. He's just Rosell's partner in crime. Rosell's 1st Vice-President and Rosell's personal friend. Because Bartomeu has never done anything wrong or lied, like when he promised Abidal a new contract publicly and backtracked.

Please. Whatever he has done lately is only to better his position in the upcoming elections. One year of trying to cover up his previous wrongdoings close to the elections so he has a chance and suddenly Bartomeu is all good and Rosell was the big bad wolf, even though Bartomeu stood beside him all the time.

This Abidal thing always gets mentioned.

Abidal was passed not fit to play by medical staff and they offered him another job at club.

Should they have offered him a playing contract and never played him that would have been about worst thing they could have done.

Also it just ignores how well the club treated Abidal when he got ill.

Happens all the time that clubs back track on contracts etc. Ronaldinho was told he would not be getting sold and few months later was gone.

 

[JamDav1982]

Bartomeu was Rosell's vise-president and closest ally, of course he shares in the Rosell debacle.

Are we going to say Bartomeu was completely ignorant of all Rosell's wrongdoings and is totally exempt from them? So either Bartomeu is complicit or incompetent.

People say this as if there has been a long list of deliberate crime ffs.

So much emphatic language used to try and make a point.

 

[DonAK]

Politicians do that all the time. They never manage to live up to all their promises, but suddenly close to the elections, In the election year or a year before, they start trying to work on some of it, not to forget they make many more public appearances than usual. They also partake in many programs to better their reputation to garner support.

It's nothing unusual. Bartomeu has just been doing what every politician, even a low grade one, would do.

 

[JamDav1982]

Politicians do that all the time. They never manage to live up to all their promises, but suddenly close to the elections, In the election year or a year before, they start trying to work on some of it, not to forget they make many more public appearances than usual. They also partake in many programs to better their reputation to garner support.

It's nothing unusual. Bartomeu has just been doing what every politician, even a low grade one, would do.

Absolutely they do.

 

[Sumlit]

People say this as if there has been a long list of deliberate crime ffs.

So much emphatic language used to try and make a point.

The list of all the negative stuff done by Rosell/Bartomeu is there for everyone but you to see. You seem totally unable or unwilling to acknowledge any, but any, wrongdoing or mismanagement done.

 

[TornAndFrayed]

Exactly because your point about Barto doing nothing wont stand up.

what sumlit said to you, the fact that you're mr twister, always trying to pit something against something else (like bringing laporta in when i criticize barto),didn't even bother replying to my MP a while back too ("because your point didn't stand up" rofl), grudgingly tried and failed to pick a fight on unrelated matters later on, mostly all you're capable of doing is asking some kind of arithmetic proof anytime someone disagrees with you, while you cling to presumption of innocence or whatnot.
Faced with these claims the lazy ass way is to ask specifics, like i'm going to bother again with quoting so you can again blatantly ignore my point to the point of ridicule.

tl;dr: i'm not discussing with you because your way of arguing sucks, and i don't like you very much. It's only nice to see you use these crap tactics when someone comes up with some actually ridiculous claims, because on some level they don't really deserve a fair argument.

 

[JamDav1982]

The list of all the negative stuff done by Rosell/Bartomeu is there for everyone but you to see. You seem totally unable or unwilling to acknowledge any, but any, wrongdoing or mismanagement done.

The list of mismanagement or 'wrong doings' are not as clear cut as people make out in my opinion and people go way over the top and ebelish them.

The Neymar case is a legit concern that the club fucked up on but I dont go with idea that this was any deliberate act of crime etc. They took eye off ball and tried to save money on the deal as Rossel was too obsessed with his legacy at club being partly a financial one as thought could never match Laporta on pitch.

Transfer ban they would have got slaughtered for not 'protecting La Masia' had they not fought it.

 

[JamDav1982]

what sumlit said to you, the fact that you're mr twister, always trying to pit something against something else (like bringing laporta in when i criticize barto),didn't even bother replying to my MP a while back too ("because your point didn't stand up" rofl), grudgingly tried and failed to pick a fight on unrelated matters later on, mostly all you're capable of doing is asking some kind of arithmetic proof anytime someone disagrees with you, while you cling to presumption of innocence or whatnot.
Faced with these claims the lazy ass way is to ask specifics, like i'm going to bother again with quoting so you can again blatantly ignore my point to the point of ridicule.

tl;dr: i'm not discussing with you because your way of arguing sucks, and i don't like you very much.

Nothing to do with twisting at all.

If you wont give one President credit, lets see what the rules are for others. Quite simple.

Again you wont answer as you cant.

 

[Sumlit]

The list of mismanagement or 'wrong doings' are not as clear cut as people make out in my opinion and people go way over the top and ebelish them.

The Neymar case is a legit concern that the club fucked up on but I dont go with idea that this was any deliberate act of crime etc. They took eye off ball and tried to save money on the deal as Rossel was too obsessed with his legacy at club being partly a financial one as thought could never match Laporta on pitch.

Transfer ban they would have got slaughtered for not 'protecting La Masia' had they not fought it.

The mismanagement and wrongdoings are very much clear to all but you who seem intent to either not acknowledge them at all, or whitewash them and pass them down to not deliberate, or an honest mistake, or with good intentions, or doing their best.

 

[TornAndFrayed]

Nothing to do with twisting at all.

If you wont give one President credit, lets see what the rules are for others. Quite simple.

Again you wont answer as you cant.

You're the guy who fails to see how barto firing zubi is an obstacle to him getting credit now. I don't respect your intellect enough to actually start debating with you. All these you could have inferred from previous arguments and my MP, instead of begging for me to let it come out here. Not about to get a warning for this crap, bye. Maybe I'll do a hall of fame for your posts.

 

[JamDav1982]

The mismanagement and wrongdoings are very much clear to all but you who seem intent to either not acknowledge them at all, or whitewash them and pass them down to not deliberate, or an honest mistake, or with good intentions, or doing their best.

You are doing the excact opposite and putting maximum blame for any little reason you can find.

Mismanaged the club all the way to a treble.

 

[Flavia]

You are doing the excact opposite and putting maximum blame for any little reason you can find.

Mismanaged the club all the way to a treble.

Club is not the team. As Alves said it himself.

 

[Sumlit]

You are doing the excact opposite and putting maximum blame for any little reason you can find.

Mismanaged the club all the way to a treble.

I'm giving deserved criticism, something, again, you are unable to do.

Continue to use the treble to hide all that's been done wrong in this club, sure Bartomeu just did and will continue to do the exact same thing.

 

[JamDav1982]

Club is not the team. As Alves said it himself.

Ok they managed the sporting side to a treble. Lets keep them seperate.

Alves in a bid to try and get more money from club is not really man to quote I dont think.