serghei
Senior Member
OK. So, in your opinion, we shouldn't sign young players anymore, because there's zero chance we're getting Mbappe and same goes for Sane. Since they both play for oil clubs that never sell their best players.
So, basically you're not against the young players we sign, but almost all young players, since they have at best 25% chances of making it.
If a player is at his peak years, let's say 26-28 years old, and is not already playing for a big club, then that player is not Barcelona level most likely. And 26-28 years old players who start for the big clubs cost an arm and a leg. Look at how much Pogba would cost. Or how much a Bernardo Silva would cost if we would be on the market now. How much Coutinho cost us. How much Hazard is costing Madrid. You can't sign more than 3-4 of those players at best.
A team is formed with talented young players and several experienced top class players. That's how almost all winning sides are built. But the key ingredient that is bringing the fresh blood, the youngsters, and the experienced seasoned players together is the manager. You always disconsider that key ingredient.
Trent Alexander Arnold under Valverde, you'd probably looking at 10% chance of making it if we follow your percentages. TAA under Klopp was 80%. Same for Salah. Valverde woud've turned him into the arab version of Malcom. Klopp turned him into a world beater.
Youngsters have more or less chances to make it depending on their quality, their character, the manager they have, and the overall environment they are performing in. Luck plays a part too (2-3 injuries and career done could happen to any youngster). You make it sound as if the club has no role in developing young players. Otherwise you wouldn't post these numbers.
How do we know that Semedo and Dembele wouldn't have developed differently under a competent manager, and not the idiot we currently have? We don't. This is why it is vital to have the right manager. Because if you do, and trust that manager, then you know those players weren't good and it wasn't the manager and the club that were rotten. But when we have a clown in charge, and other clowns above him, you don't know that.
We could very well be selling Semedo to Simeone and he could turn him into the best rightback in the world. Back when we had a top top manager, you knew that when a guy didn't make it, see Bojan, or Chigrinsky, or others, they didn't have it. We simply trusted the manager and the staff, knew they were pros and very very good at their job. We saw other young players growing and developing in the team, like Yaya, Pedro, Busi, Pique etc. So we knew that when others didn't, it was them that were missing something. But now, basically all young players that this Valverde chump had, they all either declined or didn't improve at all. How do we know that all of these players were indeed bad apples, or the guy that is using them is fucking clueless?
In 24 months since Valverde joined not a single young player improved in this team.
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