You know what else isn't based in reality? All the players hate Setien like you're suggesting. Or that the manager should buckle under the pressure of the players and let them decide how we play.
Who do you suggest we sign? Who do you suggest we start? Who do you suggest we hire as a coach (that is available)?
Also this genius prediction of sinking deeper for a few years, of course we will a bit, messi will slow down and retire.
Lol, you got angry now.
The problem is that 90% of fans think with their emotions and their hope for a brighter future and not with a cold logic.
You called me a miserable sod, I could call you a naive 13 years old girl who talks about her dreams and not about reality.
If you want to break a success, cycles, rise and fall of football clubs into factors, I would write it this way:
1. president and a board
2. Sporting directors
3. A coach
4. Money
5. Longterm sporting project by sporting directors and a coach where they choose their system, formation, tactics and buy players according to these plans
6. Players
7. La Masia young talents
8. A state of your domestic and european opponents
9. Some luck in matches, regarding injuries, easy CL draw, refs help
Now, let's check our first successfull era in 2000s: 2004-2006 with Rijkaard
1. A good president Laporta, check
2. A goat sporting director Txiki, check
3. A good coach with a clear plan, ideas, authority and charisma, Rijkaard, check
4. Money, check
5. Longterm sporting project, check
6. Players: Txiki and Rijkaard bought 15 new players in 2 summers for their project, not some random players like Dumbele, Cou or Griezz, check
7. La Masia: Valdes, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Motta, Gabri, Oleguer, check
8. A bad state of direct opponents: Valencia was dying, Real were declining old Galacticos, Atletico was a midtable club. A perfect timing to grow and win even if you are not at 100%, check
In Europe: no Psg, shitty Bayern, no oil money, Italians were on a verge of bankruptcy, check
9. Some luck: red cards for Chelsea, a red card in a final of 2006 for Arsenal
Now, let's check 2020 and see how many factors are favorable in this moment:
1. Barto, a president till summer of 2021 (18 months) and even then, maybe his assistants will win the elections again
2. Sporting directors: Roberto, Segura, Abidal, lol
3. A coach: 61 years old guy fired by Betis
4. Long term sporting plan: play with 33 years old divas and pair them with expensive misfits like Dumbele, Cou, Griezz, lol. A new plan: sign another amigo Neymar, lol.
5. Money, check
6. Players, horrible
7. La Masia=dead
8. State of the opponents=RM has a better team, a right coach and better youngsters
In Europe, there are at least 10 super rich teams, so the situation for rebuilding is way harder than in 2003 or 2008
9. Luck with injuries, a CL draw or lucky goals=we aren't lucky lately
So, basically, out of 9 factors which were here during Rijkaard's and Pep's start, today we have 1=money.
So, you see, firing EV, selling Raki and similar, surely won't change too much.
For the next 18 Months, nothing will change.
Barto will stay.
Abidal will stay.
Busi, Sukki, Pique, Alba will stay.
We can only hire and fire coaches but the results won't improve.
La Masia is dead.
Epl is richer and richer.
And on top of all=we will lose Messi.
So, even if you get a perfect president in 2021, a perfect sporting directors, a perfect coach.
We will still need 10-15 good transfers and some time for a team to click.
Yet, we won't have any La Masia kids so it will be hard to play Barca's DNA football with 11 foreigners.
So, roughly, even if we make everything right, we could start to show signs of improvement in 2023 at earliest.
But since it is hard to get everything right that fast, the more likely is that we will be similar to a current Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool pre Klopp.
So, you see, if you want to be realistic and if you remove emotions and dreams, there is ABSOLUTELY nothing which suggests any improvements before 2023 at earliest.
Also, when you guys dream about Frenkie, Arthur and co, from now on you should take into the account that they will play and grow in a mess for at least 3-4 more seasons.
I often see posts: let's give a player xx one season under a proper coach and with a functional team.
Well, it won't happen anytime soon.
And this post isn't about egos or I told you so.
It is a cold reality if you look at a bigger picture and if you dig deeper into reasons and circumstances why some clubs are in winning or losing eras.
Look at Liverpool.
Ok president.
Good sporting directors and scouts.
Good long term project.
Money, check.
Good coach.
Right players for their sporting project.
Some domestic youngsters.
And except City, their opponents are shit.
Plus, they are lucky with some results and with injuries.
Liverpool also has 8-9 needed ingredients for a success.
Again, Barca in this moment has only 1 ingredient=money.
Basically, the only option for our growth is that Font guy.
Yet nobody knows whether he is good or just a same crap like Barto.
And even if he'll win, he will need good sporting directors, a right coach, 10-15 new players, decline of RM, luck etc.
Way too many "ifs".
It sounds like a Science fiction now, but really, in 2-3 years, we will look back at titles under EV and say: ah, good old days. We were at least capable of winning back then.
