Luis Enrique

Neymessi

Active member
Floper would fire him, no doubt. Don't forget Ancelotti gave them la decima, after 12 years of waiting.

You overestimate his stupidity if you think he would fire him. La decima was a UCL trophy to win,that being the 10th or 11th doesn't matter much. He won just 2 major trophies in 2 seasons. Lucho has 5 out of 6 possible. A treble and a double have hardly hapenned in the history.
 
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FlaFCB

Guest
You overestimate his stupidity if you think he would fire him. La decima was a UCL trophy to win,that being the 10th or 11th doesn't matter much. He won just 2 major trophies in 2 seasons. Lucho has 5 out of 6 possible. A treble and a double have hardly hapenned in the history.

La decima didn't matter much? It was their obsession for over a decade. rm presidents fire coaches much easier than Barça. capello was fired by calderon after winning la liga, and rm was without a big trophy for 3 or 4 seasons. They are proactive, when they think something is not working anymore.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
It is unprofessional, yes...I get it. But, I'd still take Bielsa over Blanc if Sampaoli doesn't come to Barcelona, I didn't mention Pochettino because it's simply not gonna happen.

Not just unprofessional,the guy is just a disaster in every non tactical aspect. He never fully succeeded with a team and always fails short at the end.he handles the players wrong,he handles the management wrong,he has handled every thing wrong.
He is stubborn,arrogant coach who is full of himself. to put him with a team like Barca who need coach who handles players more than anything else will be a disaster.
The guy should never be on any repectful team coaching list,only a desperate team will go for him and hope it will be a reclamation project for him.

I would blame Lazio's board for not making an attempt to get the players he wanted.

Any club should take their time when they try to sign a player so they won't get robbed. they will need to test the water with his agent and assess his market value,you can't handle them a list and then ask other clubs if they made contact?
I mean what if his club actually made contact? what do you think the coach doing that will do for negotiation?and why go behind the back of the club that way? And no club sign all the players the coach wants,that is shortest way to fail.coaches has limited access to watch players in other clubs and don't have the time to scout many players around the globe,yeah he need to have a say about it and it is a collective process but "my way or the highway" thing with him won't work here by any mean. He was wrong even if Lazio wasn't right
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
His building from the back, inviting pressure idea is decent. But it is his only tactic nowadays. Circulate the ball slowly, give it to ter Stegen, invite the opponents on our half and try to build an attack using Stegen's long ball creating a numerous advantage. When it does not work we are screwed.
 
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FlaFCB

Guest
Interesting.

Barça's form away in la liga:

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And at home:

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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Marcelo Bielsa is a teacher. A coach whose tactics and idea of football have inspired several successful coaches, but he himself has never managed to become one.

Why? Because of his personality. That guy is BATSHIT CRAZY.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Interesting.

Barça's form away in la liga:

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And at home:

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1. we played 9 matches at home, 11 away, that is 27 vs 33 possible points in total
2. we played at home RM and AM already, and lost points. We are yet to lose points (probably) in those away matches
3. we have already played against 4 out of bottom 6 teams away: Valencia, Leganes, Sporting, Osasuna, while we played only 2 out of those at home: Granada and Deportivo
4. also, it is only 24 vs 18 points. After all of this from above (some easier away matches and RM and AM at home, plus 9 vs 11 matches), those numbers will be even at the end of a season

Imo, more worrisome is a stat that out of 20 matches, we didn't win in 8 matches.
That means that currently we are winning only 3 matches out of 5 and statistically, we are slipping twice in each 5 matches.

That is waaaaaaaaay too much.

In 2015/16, we slipped only 9 times in a whole season.
In 2014/15, we slipped only 8 times in a whole season.
Even in Tata's 2013/14, we slipped only 11 times.
In 2012/13, we slipped 6 times.
In 2011/12, we slipped 10 times.
In 2010/11, 8 slips.
In 2009/10, 7 slips.
In 2008/09, 11 slips.
In 2007/08, 19 slips...

So, this will be the worst season since Rijkaard's last season, it seems.
The worst season in 9 years.
 

JerseyAddict

Well-known member
Imo, more worrisome is a stat that out of 20 matches, we didn't win in 8 matches.
That means that currently we are winning only 3 matches out of 5 and statistically, we are slipping twice in each 5 matches.

That is waaaaaaaaay too much.

Yes. That is the disaster. Something has to change.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
But this season La Liga is very competitive. All teams at the top slipped more than in previous seasons. ;)

Real slipped 5 times in 19 rounds.
Let's say that they will slip 10 times over 38 rounds.

Real in 2015/16=10 slips, NOT a champion
Real in 2014/15=8 slips, NOT a champion
Real in 2013/14=11 slips, NOT a champion
Real in 2012/13=12 slips, NOT a champion
Real in 2011/12=6 slips, a champion

In the last 5 seasons, Real was slipping 9,4 times on average and 4 out of 5 times they weren't champions.
Or, if we remove that season from 2011/12 when they played too well, their average in the last 4 years was 10,25 slips per season.
Since they have 5 slips in the first 19 rounds and they will probably have 10 slips after 38 rounds, it means that Real isn't playing anything special at all.
They are more or less playing like they usual selves.
Their level of points won in this year is the same as in the last 4-5 seasons.
So, they haven't improved that much compared to their usual selves.

But, but, but.
Here is another stat.
Barca in the last 5 years:
9, 8, 11, 6, 10 slips, we were champions 3 times out of 5 (with 9, 8 and 6 slips. We weren't champions with 11 and 10 slips).
So, I will simplify maths to some extent, but in the last few years, it worked like this:
1. Real will ALWAYS slip around 10-11 times per season
2. if Barca will manage to slip 8-9-10 times or less, they were usually winning titles in that season
Barca's average number of slips in the last 5 years is 8,8 compared with Real's 10,25 (without that too good season).

What am I trying to say, these stats one more time clearly show: that no one is to blame for our La liga form, but ourselves.
In the last 3 winning seasons (2016, 2015, 2013) we slipped 9, 8 and 6 times.
This season, we already have 8 slips after half of a season (18 rounds to go).

So, it is quite simple: we are playing very poor compared to our usual selves.
And we have handled a trophy into Real's arms.
They haven't done anything too special this year compared to their usual form.

So, a point that all teams are slipping more is not true.
Real is playing more or less at their usual level (10 slips per season), while Barca wasn't able to follow their usual level of only 8-9 slips per season, and we will have probably 15 or more slips this season.

Anyway, unless if RM will improve a lot (or turn into a team who slips 15 times per season), a recipe for the next season is the same:
= we can afford roughly 8-9 slips over 38 rounds if we want to be La liga champions
 
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Neymessi

Active member
Interesting.

Barça's form away in la liga:

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And at home:

EYGApAT.jpg

The stat doesn't tell much. We have dropped points for one reason only and that is luchos stupid rotations like the one against home at alaves. If the match is at home he rotates more stupidly than against away teams and hence this table.
 

bismp

Well-known member
The Atletico game is our last chance to turn this shit around and save the season...We can't lose La Liga to Real Madrid of all teams :cry:

I firmly believe that if we start playing well and build a winning streak we have a chance to overtake Real,as they are nothing special and they will also slip up a few times.But we can't afford losing more points right now.

It's true that the refererees have made some really shady decisions lately,but this isn't an excuse.We've been playing like shit in most of those games that we were treated unfairly.For example,against Betis we definitely didn't deserve the draw,let alone the 3 points...
 
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FlaFCB

Guest
This is our last chance to turn this shit around and save the season...We can't lose La Liga to Real Madrid of all teams :cry:

I firmly believe that if we start playing well and build a winning streak we have a chance to overtake Real,as they are nothing special and they will also slip up a few times.But we can't afford losing more points right now.

That ship has sailed, I'm afraid. The amount of dropped points is too high for the 20th round. rm won't slip much, and they also have rfef's and lfp's help. And we're also nothing special.
 

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