La Liga 2018/19

[BBZ8800]

I have been hearing statements like this one for 10 years straight.

We had Messi and CR7 during majority of that time.
It could be different this time.

About Real Madrid, I find it so funny.
They played a more direct and faster football and won 4 Cls in 5 years.
Now they slowed down and turned to a more possession based football.

And we can read replies here how they can't score, how they wouldn't score even if the match lasted for 10 hours, how Bale is dropping back to get more space, how Benzema is playing like a midfielder and similar.
Does this sound familiar and similar to one other Spanish team?

My point: are there still guys out there who don't understand that too possession based/slower transition/playing against parked buses is not the way to go in 2018 anymore?
There will still be guys who will reply: that type of football can still be played, but Barca and Real are NOT EXECUTING it properly

That type of football is only getting us headaches, problems with scoring, playing against parked buses and boring possession game.

For those who will reply: BUT that is our style!
Well, we can still play similar, ONLY way faster in general and faster in transition in particular.

The same as how Real didn't play that much uglier in the last few years compared to this shit-possession show which Lopetegui is forcing.

This guy Lopetegui is also still living in 2010 when Barca's and Spanish TikiTaka ruled the world and didn't wake up since then.

Does somebody has his phone number?
We should call him.
Let's help the poor dude.

 

[Messigician]

We had Messi and CR7 during majority of that time.
It could be different this time.

About Real Madrid, I find it so funny.
They played a more direct and faster football and won 4 Cls in 5 years.
Now they slowed down and turned to a more possession based football.

And we can read replies here how they can't score, how they wouldn't score even if the match lasted for 10 hours, how Bale is dropping back to get more space, how Benzema is playing like a midfielder and similar.
Does this sound familiar and similar to one other Spanish team?

My point: are there still guys out there who don't understand that too possession based/slower transition/playing against parked buses is not the way to go in 2018 anymore?
There will still be guys who will reply: that type of football can still be played, but Barca and Real are NOT EXECUTING it properly

That type of football is only getting us headaches, problems with scoring, playing against parked buses and boring possession game.

For those who will reply: BUT that is our style!
Well, we can still play similar, ONLY way faster in general and faster in transition in particular.

The same as how Real didn't play that much uglier in the last few years compared to this shit-possession show which Lopetegui is forcing.

This guy Lopetegui is also still living in 2010 when Barca's and Spanish TikiTaka ruled the world and didn't wake up since then.

Does somebody has his phone number?
We should call him.
Let's help the poor dude.

Sorry but his Spain team destroyed Argentina 6-1 and they played the same way you're talking about and we have a great record against Zidane playing this ' slow possession game'

This is the same manager who went undefeated in all 10 games with Spain it's no wonder Real Madrid are struggling to adapt he is a great coach dont underestimate him.

I would rather him than Valverde tbh he suits Barcelona more.

 

[serghei]

Someone please explain BBZ that Barca doesn't play slow possession football unless when they are bad. When they are good it is not slow.

There are plenty of bad teams who play on fast counters and are shit. You can win playing possession style or you can win playing on the break with a more direct style. In CL maybe you have more chances if you defend deep and play on the counter, while in league campaigns teams who dominate possession tend to win more often maybe.

But in the end, it's about playing a certain style well enough, it's not the style you play that makes you win or lose, it's how you do it. It was like that since forever.

Our style is obviously possession based, and it's basically our legacy in football, as we are considered to be the best possession based team for decades already by a lot of fans. That will probably not change, and it would be stupid to change.

I do find Madrid trying to play more like Barcelona a bit funny though...

 

[Stoichkov1]

Someone please explain BBZ that Barca doesn't play slow possession football unless when they are bad. When they are good it is not slow.

There are plenty of bad teams who play on fast counters and are shit. You can win playing possession style or you can win playing on the break with a more direct style. In CL maybe you have more chances if you defend deep and play on the counter, while in league campaigns teams who dominate possession tend to win more often maybe.

But in the end, it's about playing a certain style well enough, it's not the style you play that makes you win or lose, it's how you do it. It was like that since forever.

Our style is obviously possession based, and it's basically our legacy in football, as we are considered to be the best possession based team for decades already by a lot of fans. That will probably not change, and it would be stupid to change.

I do find Madrid trying to play more like Barcelona a bit funny though...

Madrid was a possession based team under Zidane and still is now. The difference is that now without Ronaldo their efficiency in the final third has significantly dropped and they look like Spain with a lot of sideways passes and no penetration.

 

[KingLeo10]

Someone please explain BBZ that Barca doesn't play slow possession football unless when they are bad. When they are good it is not slow.

There are plenty of bad teams who play on fast counters and are shit. You can win playing possession style or you can win playing on the break with a more direct style. In CL maybe you have more chances if you defend deep and play on the counter, while in league campaigns teams who dominate possession tend to win more often maybe.

But in the end, it's about playing a certain style well enough, it's not the style you play that makes you win or lose, it's how you do it. It was like that since forever.

Our style is obviously possession based, and it's basically our legacy in football, as we are considered to be the best possession based team for decades already by a lot of fans. That will probably not change, and it would be stupid to change.

I do find Madrid trying to play more like Barcelona a bit funny though...

It's futile dude.

This guy doesn't understand that all 3 of our recent CL winnings teams are put on a historical pedestal. While you'd be laughed out of the park for saying that about madrid's 16 and 18 teams or the ones from 98-02.

 

[serghei]

Madrid was a possession based team under Zidane and still is now. The difference is that now without Ronaldo their efficiency in the final third has significantly dropped and they look like Spain with a lot of sideways passes and no penetration.

Zidane's Madrid managed to have less possession than Atletico Madrid under Simeone in a CL final. They are not a possession team.

Possession team doesn't mean they have more possession against much inferior teams. Possession team means setting up do dominate possession at all times almost no matter the opponent. Barcelona plays like that, Madrid don't.

Madrid don't have a distinct style, but if we are to chose one, I'd say they are a fast transition counter-attacking team who can still play good possession football at times against inferior teams.

Barca are the opposite. They are a great possession side who are able at times to play a good counter-attacking game.

 

[Stoichkov1]

Zidane's Madrid managed to have less possession than Atletico Madrid under Simeone. They are not a possession team.

Possession team doesn't mean they have more possession against much inferior teams. Possession team means setting up do dominate possession at all times almost no matter the opponent. Barcelona plays like that, Madrid don't.

I don't even remember a match where they had less possession than the opponent. Maybe against Bayern, that's it.

They certainly weren't a counterattacking team.

 

[serghei]

I don't even remember a match where they had less possession than the opponent. Maybe against Bayern, that's it.

They certainly weren't a counterattacking team.

Bayern, Barcelona, Napoli, Betis, Las Palmas.

Las Palmas under Setien had 57% possession on Bernabeu.

 

[Stoichkov1]

Bayern, Barcelona, Napoli.

In 2017 they had more possession against Bayern though.

Against Barca it's not that surprising considering that we always have more possession than the opponent.

Only 3 matches in 3 years where they have less possession show that they're a possession oriented team. For example in 2014 under Ancelotti when they were still a counterattacking team they had like 30% of possession against Bayern.

 

[serghei]

In 2017 they had more possession against Bayern though.

Against Barca it's not that surprising considering that we always have more possession than the opponent.

Only 3 matches in 3 years where they have less possession show that they're a possession oriented team. For example in 2014 under Ancelotti when they were still a counterattacking team they had like 30% of possession against Bayern.

Bayern had 52% possession with Madrid in 2017 on Bernabeu and they played with 10 men for 35 mins after Vidal red.

 

[Stoichkov1]

Bayern had 52% possession than Madrid in 2017 on Bernabeu and they played with 10 men for 35 mins.

And Real had 52% possession in Munich.

 

[serghei]

And Real had 52% possession in Munich.

After Bayern was in 10 men. for about 35 mins. Red card Martinez.

Madrid aren't a possession team except when they meet a team who basically gives them the initiative. Like Atletico, Liverpool, Juventus. Most teams are like that. They sit back and play on the counter. Madrid do it too when they meet possession based teams.

 

[Stoichkov1]

After Bayern was in 10 men. for about 35 mins. Red card Martinez.

Madrid aren't a possession team except when they meet a team who basically gives them the initiative. Like Atletico, Liverpool, Juventus. Most teams are like that. They sit back and play on the counter. Madrid do it too when they meet possession based teams.

There isn't a single team in the world that has more possession than the opponent every single time except Barca maybe. Even today Man City had only 51% of possession against Liverpool. Does it mean that they're not a possession oriented team?

 

[serghei]

There isn't a single team in the world that has more possession than the opponent every single time except Barca maybe. Even today Man City had only 51% of possession against Liverpool. Does it mean that they're not a possession oriented team?

No. Madrid almost always have less possession than their rivals when they meet a comparable team. Sometimes even smaller sides who are possession based manage to have more possession than them.

 

[Stoichkov1]

No. Madrid almost always have less possession than their rivals when they meet a comparable team. Sometimes even smaller sides who are possession based manage to have more possession than them.

Let's agree to disagree then, anyway it's certain that they became more possession oriented under Zidane. When there was Ancelotti they had like 30% of possession against us or Bayern even in their own stadium.