Kylian Mbappé

[Messigician]

Kylain Mbappe and Erling Halaand Laporta's coming for you!

Laporta: "Haaland? Mbapp?? All I can say is with me as president, Bar?a will be able to sign the most interesting players on the market. We're ready to improve what we have now. And we must not forget that to get Messi to stay we have to make a very competitive sports proposal."

 

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Kylain Mbappe and Erling Halaand Laporta's coming for you!

Laporta: "Haaland? Mbapp?? All I can say is with me as president, Bar?a will be able to sign the most interesting players on the market. We're ready to improve what we have now. And we must not forget that to get Messi to stay we have to make a very competitive sports proposal."

Laporta is living in denial. I know he has to say stupid stuff to try and get elected, but he knows damn well he doesn't have the money to sign players like Haaland and Mbappe.

The players we will realistically bring in are Depay, Gini, Garcia and maybe Gaya on loan with an option to buy. Those players are decent but are not good enough to win a Champions League. And the players we'll loan out will be Pjanic and possibly Coutinho so it can cover their wages. His first year in charge will be about balancing the books and lowering the debt. Nobody is buying his bullshit. Also, players like Haaland, Alaba and Mbappe won't want to come to a team that's in a big transition than we are currently. They're not that stupid.

What is his "very competitive" sports proposal by the way?

 

[JerseyAddict]

Laporta is living in denial. I know he has to say stupid stuff to try and get elected, but he knows damn well he doesn't have the money to sign players like Haaland and Mbappe.

The players we will realistically bring in are Depay, Gini, Garcia and maybe Gaya on loan with an option to buy. Those players are decent but are not good enough to win a Champions League. And the players we'll loan out will be Pjanic and possibly Coutinho so it can cover their wages. His first year in charge will be about balancing the books and lowering the debt. Nobody is buying his bullshit. Also, players like Haaland, Alaba and Mbappe won't want to come to a team that's in a big transition than we are currently. They're not that stupid.

What is his "very competitive" sports proposal by the way?

Amen.

 

[vuji_31]

Well Laporta never say any name so..

We fans are hoping for Haaland.

If Messi goes , huge wage bill be reduced.

We will need big name to sell shirts.

We need striker and goalscorrer.

His clause is 80mil.

We can sell or loan players like Pjanic,Coutinho,Grizz,Firpo,Umtiti,Emerson...

 

[Laplacian]

Laporta befriended a multibillionaire who will inject massive amounts of money into the club free of charge


Believe it.

 

[BBZ8800]

I'm not sure why people write stuff like this, it's like they've never actually watched football/follow said footballers careers and just look at stats.

You do know Messi and C.Ronaldo haven't always CF's like Haaland and Mbappe? For one C.Ronaldo only became a pure CF aged 28/30+

As good as Mbappe/Haaland are chances are they will never go on to have the careers Ronaldo and Messi have had, do you know how i know this? Because those 2 have dominated the Ballon d'Or for over a decade, they have scored 40+ goals a season for over a decade, have more league and champions league medals around their necks than Mr T gold chains and stayed relatively injury (serious injury) all their careers and have dominated football more than any other footballer in its history.

They are genuinely 2 'all time greats' (possibly the greatest) for 2 more players to come through same era as them and somehow get talked about as they though they are going to be 'better' (or doing things better) is highly unlikely.

For Haaland/Mbappe to maintain their levels and scoring 40+ goals a season every season now until mid-30's is highly unlikely and for them to not get any injuries to slow them down is highly unlikely and for Mbappe/Haaland to win the Champions League (and Ballon d'Or) year after year is highly unlikely.

On the other hand, I think that stats from Messi and CR7 are inflated due to them playing in big clubs since always and playing in a CL for 15 seasons in a row, unlike greats from 80s or 90s.

For example, if Haaland moves to let's say Bayern and stays there for 15 years, he will surely win 4-5 Cls, score 30+ goals for 15 seasons in a row, win Ballon D Ors and surely break some of Messi's and Cr7's numbers.

Both Cr7 and Messi were injury free and spent the whole careers in clubs which were among top2 in their country or among top 5-6 in Europe.

In the last 10 years, Messi, Cr7, Suarez, Lewa and Neymar broke almost all goalscoring records.
There is no way that this era was so rich with talent.

The gulf between big and small teams in big5 leagues is bigger than ever.
The same team is winning like 10 titles in a row in Italy, Germany, France.
League competitions became statpadding contest against bottom table farmer teams.

So, imo someone will surely reach Messi's and Cr7's numbers in the next 20 years.
Especially if the gulf becomes even larger and if leagues become even bigger statpadding playground.

 

[vegitot]

On the other hand, I think that stats from Messi and CR7 are inflated due to them playing in big clubs since always and playing in a CL for 15 seasons in a row, unlike greats from 80s or 90s.

For example, if Haaland moves to let's say Bayern and stays there for 15 years, he will surely win 4-5 Cls, score 30+ goals for 15 seasons in a row, win Ballon D Ors and surely break some of Messi's and Cr7's numbers.

Both Cr7 and Messi were injury free and spent the whole careers in clubs which were among top2 in their country or among top 5-6 in Europe.

In the last 10 years, Messi, Cr7, Suarez, Lewa and Neymar broke almost all goalscoring records.
There is no way that this era was so rich with talent.

The gulf between big and small teams in big5 leagues is bigger than ever.
The same team is winning like 10 titles in a row in Italy, Germany, France.
League competitions became statpadding contest against bottom table farmer teams.

So, imo someone will surely reach Messi's and Cr7's numbers in the next 20 years.
Especially if the gulf becomes even larger and if leagues become even bigger statpadding playground.

Really doubt about they can reach Messi or Ronaldo number of goals. For example Messi 73 goals and 30 assists (103 goals+assists) in 2011/12 is unbeatable. No way Haaland or Mbappe can reach it. Lewandowski has played for Bayern for 7 years and only last season he could score over 50 goals in one season.

 

[vegitot]

True. On the other hand, Mbappe already won the World Cup as a teenager while being a major contributor, like Pele, something
that Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo never achieved in their entire carreer.

Messi doesn't win world cup but the best player of world cup 2014, also runner up. Similiar to Cruyff.

 

[BarcaOG]

On the other hand, I think that stats from Messi and CR7 are inflated due to them playing in big clubs since always and playing in a CL for 15 seasons in a row, unlike greats from 80s or 90s.

For example, if Haaland moves to let's say Bayern and stays there for 15 years, he will surely win 4-5 Cls, score 30+ goals for 15 seasons in a row, win Ballon D Ors and surely break some of Messi's and Cr7's numbers.

Both Cr7 and Messi were injury free and spent the whole careers in clubs which were among top2 in their country or among top 5-6 in Europe.

In the last 10 years, Messi, Cr7, Suarez, Lewa and Neymar broke almost all goalscoring records.
There is no way that this era was so rich with talent.

The gulf between big and small teams in big5 leagues is bigger than ever.
The same team is winning like 10 titles in a row in Italy, Germany, France.
League competitions became statpadding contest against bottom table farmer teams.

So, imo someone will surely reach Messi's and Cr7's numbers in the next 20 years.
Especially if the gulf becomes even larger and if leagues become even bigger statpadding playground.

bunch of hypothetical BS

dozens of phenomenal players have played for both real and barca and none of them achieved messi's and CR's consistency and level

BBZ the master BSer making it seem like 5-10 years of being # 1 and 2 is easily replicable

i.e lewandowski has had what, 4 good years and 1 CL to show for it? even though messi and CR had like 4-5 years on him and multiple more CLs?

and this all considering lewa is a phenomenal striker playing for a very good team


bbz the joke of the forum

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

True. On the other hand, Mbappe already won the World Cup as a teenager while being a major contributor, like Pele, something
that Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo never achieved in their entire carreer.

Dude Mbappe and Pele have played in the (by far) best team of the world cup, people are acting like they had won the WC with sweden. He cant even win the CL with PSG.

 

[malvolio]

Back to Mbumppe?

 

[khaled_a_d]

For example, if Haaland moves to let's say Bayern and stays there for 15 years, he will surely win 4-5 Cls, score 30+ goals for 15 seasons in a row, win Ballon D Ors and surely break some of Messi's and Cr7's numbers.

Surely? based on what?
Bayern has 6 CL titles in their own history, and even failed to win more than one with many great generations they had.
Once with Kahn, once with RObbery and once with Lewa


There is nothing sure on what you say.

Both Cr7 and Messi were injury free and spent the whole careers in clubs which were among top2 in their country or among top 5-6 in Europe.

Messi had his fair share of injuries during his career, and needed to work his ass off to be able to have durability.

Both Cr7 and Messi were injury free and spent the whole careers in clubs which were among top2 in their country or among top 5-6 in Europe.

In the last 10 years, Messi, Cr7, Suarez, Lewa and Neymar broke almost all goalscoring records.
There is no way that this era was so rich with talent.

No one has ever dominated the modern game (past 50 years at least) the way those two did, not at peak, not at longevity they had.
Players who are younger like Neymar,Griezmann and Hazard are already showing signs of decline before they completed 30, Salah to lesser extent but he was late bloomer for world class player.

The thing is, those 2 has separated themselves from everyone else for dozen of years, which is simple unprecedented even with players decade younger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0xz2PSnZ0E
Look at the way Ferdinand (an all time great defender who played with and against many greats) about how anyone else can't look at those 2 and only say "I wish"


That said, sooner or later someone will come and surpass them, but it isn't gonna happen that quickly.
It took long time for us to see Maradona after Pele, longer time to see Messi after Maradona, but there is always great players in between.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Back to Mbumppe?

Yeah had just a short break from it. I heard on 10.3 he will have another break

 

[slicknick]

The hate this dude gets on this forum is crazy (personally, I would have loved to have him at Barca). Sure, he lacks consistency, but that can be attributed to his youth, there is still time to learn (not every youngster is so freakishly consistent like Leo was, mind you guys).

Had a bad game last night, though the whole PSG team was bad - they still lack consistency week in, week out

 

[Newcomer]

The hate this dude gets on this forum is crazy (personally, I would have loved to have him at Barca). Sure, he lacks consistency, but that can be attributed to his youth, there is still time to learn (not every youngster is so freakishly consistent like Leo was, mind you guys).

Had a bad game last night, though the whole PSG team was bad - they still lack consistency week in, week out

Contrary to your belief, PSG and Mbapp? are pretty consistent this season. Last game was faithful to what they usually do. The inconsistency was actually Bar?a game. I dunno if that means Bar?a were atrociously poor or PSG were uncharacteristically good or maybe both.

Mbapp? is a very good player though. On his day, he can be unplayable but he is hyped too much and cocky. This is why people don't like him as much as they would otherwise.

One good game against Bar?a (probably his best game for PSG) and he has supposedly made a statement it is his era and Messi's era is over according to the media and people... Naturally, given their respective ages, Messi is nearing the end while Mbapp? is only starting but he is still far from the levels reached by Messi or even Cristiano Ronaldo.

Let him grow and prove and then people, media noise, and Mbapp? cockiness will be warranted.

Yesterday was an important game and Mbapp? didn't even try. His attitude was so wrong. Losing the ball and then just standing there. It is ok not to have a stellar performance but at least give it a try in an important game. This is what make Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo so special. They could make a 10/10 performance against a big side on CL but then they would also take care of business in the league.