If he gets to zlatan levels in terms of impact off the bitch, that's decent but not all that great, zlatan was much bigger in his own mind than in reality. Lo
Haaland or Complete Squad Overhaul?
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If he gets to zlatan levels in terms of impact off the bitch, that's decent but not all that great, zlatan was much bigger in his own mind than in reality. Lo
fergus90
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I'd even argue and say Haaland is a superstar already. Always spoken about, linked to Europe's best clubs all the time. It's going to take a significant downturn in his performances over a sustained period of time for him to disappear out of conversations. He will be the face of Nike/Adidas/Puma for sure for the next generation.
Plus he's and all-out striker, those type of players are always fashionable.
Plus he's and all-out striker, those type of players are always fashionable.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
I think you are kind out of touch with youth
Haaland is a physical beast, which is one of the most appreciated skills now in football and social media era. With great agent that knows how exactly to market him, and then a big club to help him to achieve that.
He will do fine in that regard, maybe not on Messi/Neymar/CR7 level but well enough.
Fati? Well maybe if he gets 100% healthy finally he can make a case, need to see him first. Buy Mendes could do wonders to him in such case (along Spain NT)
Thanks masalagician
BarcaOG
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Neymar was definitely a gamble but suarez wasnt. he was a proven entity.
we also paid a lot less for them than for griez/cou/demb
serghei
Senior Member
Well said.
Birdy
Senior Member
Money wise it's the same more or less, that's the point of the poll.
People in option 2 will NOT be getting exorbitant wages, or else they will be discarded (read about Hernandez rumor today?), but still significant more money than the free agents in option 1
Now, time to present my view:
You are right, I voted for option 2, and I might be the minority in the reason why
There are 2 reasons behind it:
1) I hate the 'superstar model' that Laporta is so obsessed with.
He is living in the past in so many different respects.
Whatever worked in 2003 is not guaranteed to work now and in the future as well
He wanted to find his 'new Rijkaard' (which supposedly now is Xavi), something that goes totally against rational deliberation and selection of a top coach, especially for the football of 2022 when coaching has become no1 ingredient of success.
Now he wants to find his new 'Ronaldinho', and is looking only at Haaland, through horse blinders. Fixated and obsessed.
Without even realizing that Ronni was bought by accident, only because he failed to land his primary target Becham, and in the end he proved to be much better than Becham.
Imagine him going for Haaland, Haaland goin to Madrid, and then the guy we buy turns out to be better fit than Haaland?
Yeah that
In short:
Why is it so necessary for Barca to have a superstar?
Why is it necessary to build a 'rivalry of superstars' with RM?
Because it happened with the CR vs MEssi? But it became so toxic from some point onwards
Is this in line with the club's philosophy?
I don't think so
2) More importantly, I have my SERIOUS DOUBTS that Haaland fits the football we play and want to play, especially under Xavi.
Both Mbape and Haaland are super-hyped sporting-wise IMO and are in fact worse than what their fanboys make them out to be (without denying they are WC potential, but have to realize that yet)
In particular, Haaland is a beast in the open space and in the air, but is not so good in small space.
Traditionally, and now with Xavi, Barca will face opponents that will sit really deep and deny space.
To break those low blocks we need penetration from out wide, and strikers that are super-mobile but also very good technically and in small space.
Haaland ain't that.
Unless we turn into a cross and in-salah team (which I would hate), which I don't think it will happen especially under Xavi...
Traditionally as well, the strikers that succeeded here were the Romarios, the Ronaldos, and the Etoos, and the Suarezs -> people very good at small space and with exceptional technique, able to pull out crazy finishings with little room to maneuver.
Haaland ain't that!
Remember Ibra also? Well, he wasn't as fast as Haaland, but had much better technique, exceptional technique, and he still failed.
Besides, I would like the team to be on Ansu and Ferran to score the goals, who both have traits that fit the traditional profile I described above.
In short: I see his transfer as RISKY to say the least, given the exorbitant wage we will pay and the 'obligation' for him to succeed.
It's something that can destroy us IF it goes wrong!
We can't afford the 'experiment'
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No way. Amongst my mates no one really cares about Ansu Fati except for Barcelona fans. Literally everyone simply thinks of him as the "guy that's injured a lot." Haaland is by FAR the bigger public figure, not just because of his performances but also because of his media personality ("weird", "funny", and direct). He has a fucking rap video ffs. In comparison, no one really knows anything about Ansu Fati in regards to his character...that includes me a Barcelona fan.
serghei
Senior Member
Harsh. This new board and staff are here for a short while, we're talking months. Their only "real" money signing that is not made with cost as the main factor is Ferran Torres. I take it you think he will flop?
Joan
Well-known member
I don't, actually. But he's a Xavi signing 1/1. With Planes gone, we lack a true sporting director with Alemany handling the administrative side of the job. Something, for instance, Overmars did at Ajax.
And I think it is generally tough to get things right no matter the administration. Especially to make a few correct signings in one window.
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