at some of the posts in this thread and overreactions. Cringeworthy stuff. One would have thought that Juve already won the CL and that C. Ronaldo scored 3 bicycle goals against the best Atlético de Madrid in history and not 2 headers from 5-10 meters away and a penalty kick.
Messi and C. Ronaldo have as many hat tricks in the CL BTW and having scored 18 goals more while being 2.5 years older is not a huge lead. Messi has a better goal to game ratio in the CL like in every other competition where both competed. Same case for their career totals. By far better. Only 15 or so goals less (despite having played 200+ games less) in all competitions (combined) despite being 2.5 years younger and 10 times the playmaker and distributor. Not only that a better goalscorer on top of that. No comparison ability wise.
The thing is that C. Ronaldo lives on his runs without the ball and height. The most simple thing in football is to flood the penalty box with crosses. Even people that have barely played football can cross the ball into a densely crowded penalty area. So in that sense C. Ronaldo is "harder" to stop simply because footballers on average are midgets (in particular that Atlético de Madrid defense) and Cholo was obviously drunk when he told freaking 34 year old and weak as hell and small Juanfran to guard C. Ronaldo.
He has only 1 CL more than Messi. Might be zero more this season. One would have thought that he was 4 CL's ahead or something like that.
Varane is 8 years younger and has 1 CL less than C. Ronaldo. In 10 years time Varane might be the CL GOAT. So what? Still nowhere near the best defender of all time just like my compatriot Gento is not the GOAT due to having the most CL wins in history and La Liga wins (so far) until Messi eventually takes that honor from him or equals him which is very possible if he plays for as long as Gento does.
Keep calm. We are CL favorites alongside City with Juve being just behind and Bayern/Liverpool fourth. If those oldies playing for the biggest CL chokers in Juventus (7 finals lost, only 2 wins, lol) are already CL champions, we are as well and next year too.
EDIT: Yes, C. Ronaldo has been better and been more "clutch" in the CL recently. That does not make Messi a choker (lol). A guy that has won more than the same C. Ronaldo while having much, much better stats in the process let alone performances.
This might, just might, have something to do with Real Madrid as a team being better individually and in knockout tournaments like CL due to their strengths and more individual play (physically stronger and can/could score in more different ways, for instance we barely cross ffs, which was Zidane's freaking MAIN TACTIC).
That and RM not even competing in the league or CdR at times (85% of all games in a season, lol) and NEVER competing on all 3 fronts like we do almost every single season. Just a thought.
Likewise Juventus, despite being oldies and chokers, have a better team play than we do as their seniors have won JACKSHIT in the CL unlike ours that have won everything several times, hence much more motivation, and they have a much better manager in ALLEGRI than freaking Valverde as well. Yet according to the logic of many users on this forum, said Juventus must be chokers as well given their lack of a CL win and in the process embarrassing defeats too.
