Cesc Fàbregas

Vapor

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Just play Cesc at false 9 already for god's sake coaches. Have him not slow down the midfield at alll and instead provide his final passes to Messi and Villa. Also get Messi out of being crowded out in the middle all day.

ANYTHING different, for god's sake I just want them to be creative (the coaches). None (correction: not ALL) of this is Cesc's fault. We all know, and the coaches should know, that he does not compare with Iniesta in our midfield when it comes to possession. He is being played in the wrong position at the wrong time, and he has no forward players to hit from the midfield. Put him on the front line.

I'm glad there's always a way to defend Cesc. At the end, It's always nice to not learn from the mistakes and keep making them.

Did you really think Barca would suddenly play great once Cesc was benched? when that happened, we needed to score 3 goals in 20 minutes. That's the reason why subbing Cesc did not make any difference, because it was too late. It was also harder to attack, because Mourinho told them to defend, and even changed Ozil for Pepe. If we had scored early, it would have been a different history, but that was impossible with Cesc running around having no idea what to do, In the match I saw him as a left winger, as a right winger, as a 9, as a midfielder, as a defender. Basically he was trying to do it all at once, and failing shoots & passes. But hey, let's protect Cesc, it's not his fault... never.
Cesc coming out did not make the other 9 outfield players suddenly start playing better and creatively. It did not improve our movement or how we looked overall as a side. Scapegoating one player in particular is pointless. We might as well just going around pointing fingers at every one... Pedro, Messi, Xavi... they all played bad. Cesc isn't being used properly and he's being used in a position where we need Iniesta, therefore making him look even worse. That's not his problem.

Yes his poor form is his problem but 75% of our team is on poor form right now, which makes me question what the real root of the problem is.
 
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slvtn

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beautifulgame

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I am not gonna blame Cesc because the staff need to sort out the whole team but 41 assists? :-/ where?
 

barcanuck

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Why can't we afford to bench Cesc again? Pep did it.

He is an amazing passer, but now that teams figured out how to isolate our left wing and Messi in the middle he has become redundant. We need to adapt to this, bench him and play an actual LW/forward like Villa or Tello and put Iniesta in his god given postion of mid.
 

kozza

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in his 2 seasons at Barça, Fabregas, didn't adapt yet to our philosophy.
In Liga he can be a substitute of Xavi or Iniesta in some accessible matches vs Osasuna or Gijon or whatever, and THAT'S ALL.
When the opponent has a level slightly higher, he becomes transparent, does nothing except his slowness, few proposals, doesn't do the effort to defend, we are clearly playing outnumbered with him.
 

Indignado

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Why can't we afford to bench Cesc again? Pep did it.

He is an amazing passer, but now that teams figured out how to isolate our left wing and Messi in the middle he has become redundant. We need to adapt to this, bench him and play an actual LW/forward like Villa or Tello and put Iniesta in his god given postion of mid.

Because Pep has balls and Tito apparently not. Either that, or he doesn't see it, which would be just as bad. Or he can't see it because he's not close to the players, which wouldn't be as bad, but means that we're substantially worse with Roura.
 

Stric

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We could afford to bench Cesc, sure, but wouldn't it be more logical to (sometimes) take advantage of the things he brings to the table? Especially when they'd come in handy? He's hands down the best final pass provider in the world right now, and is on top of his game when used in the right environment. At the same time, Messi cutting through the middle from his false #9 position has become too obvious and easy to defend against. Why not just put 2 and 2 together and come up with a solution that would cover multiple issues. Put Messi on the wing, where he'll have more space, because the opposition defense can't afford to crowd around him in wide areas. Put Villa on the left, and Cesc in the false #9 position. Messi will cut in from the right like nobody's business, Villa will use his brilliant positioning to drag away defenders from both Cesc and Messi, and Cesc will be able to provide passes to both Messi and Villa, a genuine forward. Of course, MVP with Pedro on form could work well, too, but considering some of our problems lately, and Pedro being off form, Villa-Cesc-Messi seems like the more reasonable option to me.
 
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Flavia

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We could afford to bench Cesc, sure, but wouldn't it be more logical to (sometimes) take advantage of the things he brings to the table? Especially when they'd come in handy? He's hands down the best final pass provider in the world right now, and is on top of his game when used in the right environment. At the same time, Messi cutting through the middle from his false #9 position has become too obvious and easy to defend against. Why not just put 2 and 2 together and come up with a solution that would cover multiple issues. Put Messi on the wing, where he'll have more space, because the opposition defense can't afford to crowd around him in wide areas. Put Villa on the left, and Cesc in the false #9 position. Messi will cut in from the right like nobody's business, Villa will use his brilliant positioning to drag away defenders from both Cesc and Messi, and Cesc will be able to provide passes to both Messi and Villa, a genuine forward. Of course, MVP with Pedro on form could work well, too, but considering some of our problems lately, and Pedro being off form, Villa-Cesc-Messi seems like the more reasonable option to me.
They could at least try... When Cesc arrived, he was used as a forward by Pep, and it worked for a while, until he had that dip in form.
 

oz187

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Villa-Cesc-Messi, problem solved. Best of... well, not both worlds, but all worlds.

Messi doesn't want to play on the wing. As for Cesc not fitting into our system, I disagree. He can fit in well, the problem is that the system is being compromised. People complain that Cesc is taking Iniesta's space. But it's the other way around. If Iniesta is played on the wing, then maybe he should play down the wing more instead of coming inside onto Cesc' space. This would give Cesc another passing option and more space to work with.
 

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