21 - Frenkie de Jong
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DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
He complained about Getafe, but so does everyone, even Atletico players who play a similar style have complained about them.
As for everything else then this guy has incredibly high standards for himself and his team. I don't mind him pushing for the team and club to do better and being outspoken about it.
FinBarcelonafan
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I agree too. I am very happy to have him. He seems to be a guy who wants to improve and play better. We need more guys like him!
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
You clearly just want a boot-licker who is happy with this abysmal status quo we have at the club.
I'd rather the club listen to every single word that FDJ has to say rather than he obey ANYTHING from them. Their authority has led to him being shoved into an unnatural role and not giving him any of the kind of responsibility he had at Ajax or Netherlands.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
I am not doubting his heart, he just need to handle things a bit differently when it doesn't go his way.
No, I just want someone who handles things internally. And not complain or use social media the wrong way.
And yeah, club obeying players is great thing, we saw that in the club already.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
I am not doubting his heart, he just need to handle things a bit differently when it doesn't go his way.
No, I just want someone who handles things internally. And not complain or use social media the wrong way.
And yeah, club obeying players is great thing, we saw that in the club already.
Club obeying players is a bad thing in general but definitely not in the case of FDJ. From day 1 it was clear this guy has ambition and high standards even for himself along with the team. Every time asked about his performance he always says he has way more to give and he is not lazy, entitled, or whatever. He wants to win, he wants to play hard and leave it all on the pitch and he clearly has been disillusioned to find that most people at Barca do not share his drive.
The club obviously needs to do a 180 when it comes to practically everything, and they should follow the examples of the players or staff that lead that to happen.
It's guys like MATS that should be 4th captain (or even straight up captain in my book) and if it were up to me, FDJ would be one of the 4 captains from day one too. We need leaders with balls and real attitude. Not guys who are just "happy to be here" and content in their starting role at "the best club in the world".
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snowy
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serghei
Senior Member
Frenkie's performances dropped compared to his Ajax games. The club is using him poorly. Like they do with nearly all young players.
Some more seasons like that and his spirit will fade in the end.
FinBarcelonafan
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Damn, I love watching Ajax play. Their brand of football is just exciting. We should build similar profile. Frenkie is playing much worse than back then. Ajax was made for him. Barca is made for Messi. Boring and slow possession (outside of Messi). I think we could be better team if we had more legs, quicker passes etc. Even with Messi. Now everyone is slow.
serghei
Senior Member
Yea, basically, the quality of the players he plays with went up a lot after moving at Barcelona. But every team-related component that made Frenkie play great at Ajax went down a lot. Pressing, speed, movement, hunger to win, cohesive tactics. Another proof that these team values matter a lot and are in the end more valuable for a young player's development than star veterans.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Exactly. Didn't Frenkie even talk about hiring special PT to keep up his physical condition? Sounds pretty alarming. I guess the grandpa's don't offer him enough physical challenge.
serghei
Senior Member
His blood is probably boiling when he sees us slowing down when we have options to counter because more than half the team is made of old, slow players who can't run anymore
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FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
His blood is probably boiling when he sees us slowing down when we have options to counter because more than half the team is made of old, slow players who can't run anymore
Haha for sure. I think our culture inside the team is too relaxed. No one is thriving to become better anymore and it affects the new guys too. Almost all the new players who came became worse. Frenkie, Arthur, Dembele etc. Lately we have done good job with defenseman and goalies. Probably because they have to save Messi kicks and take his dribbles. Otherwise we are pretty shit developing anything, I think it's from this attitude from the seniors hurting the younger ones.
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