Financial Fairplay

Financial Fairplay a good idea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 85.3%
  • No

    Votes: 5 14.7%

  • Total voters
    34

ranjix

Jefecito
No more careless signings like Chiggy or Ibra. Madrid, Chelsea and City would really be upset about this policy.
 

Ash1899

New member
Milan -79.6m :banghead:

Fuck do we need a new stadium. We could be one of the highest earning football clubs in the world, but the lack of a stadium is crippling us...
 

Chainsaw

Killahead
Hm, whats wrong with San Siro?

Taken from the Inter's section off theoffside.com:

So why a stadium?

Simply said, it’s game day revenue. English and Spanish clubs of the same stature as Inter make more than twice – sometimes 4 time more – the amount of money that Inter take home on game day alone, plus they don’t have to pay a rental fee of over 10 million € a year for the privilege of earning so much less than other clubs in Europe.

Here’s some perspective for you: Inter can compete with the Manchester Uniteds and the Real Madrids in TV money. According to the famous Swiss Rambler article, in 2010 Real Madrid, the biggest earner in TV rights in Europe in 2010, made a little less than 40 million € more over a year than Inter made. However, in terms of game day revenue, it’s not quite so sanguine. Real, not even the table’s leaders in match day revenue totaled over a year are almost 4 times richer than Inter.

These numbers aren’t even taking into effect the real benefit to a stadium: scheduling friendlies, concerts, other sporting events, Inter Campus events for charitable tax breaks and normal events like conventions.
Okay so all the benefits of owning a stadium is pretty basic. I think we all got a pretty good handle on that. Here’s the hard part and hence the title of this article: selecting a model to follow that lets us build a stadium and maintain Champions League position.

Let’s dispel a thought right now: Moratti isn’t going to shell out his personal money to build a stadium. First of all, I don’t think he has half a billion € lying around in a lump sum. Neither do the board of directors. The money has to come from a bank. We all know, or should know that Moratti has been scouting locations for his new stadium and it looks like he’s found a likely candidate. Now he has said for years that he wants the basic setup that Bayern Munchen have. Fine.

Here’s hard part #2: Moratti needs to get his books in order – for a bank, sure, but also for UEFA which won’t wait for the Stadium to come to implement the Fair Play Directive. Remember (and this is why I have brought up the Swiss Rambler’s article ), Inter has been losing upwards of 150 million € plus every year. However those numbers are from before the Ibra sale. I would bet that since then wage redemption, player sales and trophy winnings basically earned us over 200 million € to help us get the house in order.

Consider this: all the players we sold over the past year and a half were basically replaced with Andrea Ranocchia, Mariga, Coutinho, Castellazzi, Andreolli and Biabiany equaling a cost of under 30 million for the 6 players, half of which is taken up by Ranocchia alone. Plus it should be noted that we aren’t paying Andreolli’s salary yet and Mariga, Coutinho, Biabiany and Castellazzi all make 1 m€ or less each (Castellazzi is the only one who makes 1 m€. The others make less than that).

So leading up to any sort of talk about bank financing for a stadium and Financial Fair play, Moratti and Branca are definitely dumping salaries or selling players – or doing both and replacing them with as many low wage earning young guys as they can find that won’t cost too much. Sound like any team in England in particular? And by low, I mean low. Mariga at about .8 m€ per year is quite a drop from Patrick Vieira who was on 5.5 m€ and remember at the time, Mariga was pretty much a direct replacement for Vieira.

So it’s clear that Moratti and Branca have started Inter’s Era of Financial Reform by upheaval of the personnel wages. If one’s goals are to run the team cheaply, then I would have to agree that this is the place to start. No longer are we going to pay a starter’s wage for a backup. Two seasons ago the top 15 earners for Inter according to La Gazzetta included Patrick Vieira at 5.5, Quaresma at 3.5, Mancini at 3.5 and Suazo at 3.5 m€ per year. Everyone else in the top 15 was a major contributor. As of right now, only Suazo is on that list. For those who are counting, that’s 16 million € in dead weight salary redeemed in 18 months.

Further, the wages at the top are down. Eto’o, our highest earner was earning 10.5 m€ two seasons ago. We have 7 players at or under a million € this season. We had 4 two seasons ago.
 
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Hamzah

High Definition Member
Why are Madrid doing so well? are all of their debts written off? I cant see how they are ahead of us, inter, chelsea, man u and all the rest
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Shitload of merch, shitload of TV rights, better sponsors, better contracts, less trophy premium wages etc. etc.
 

House of Flies

all your bases belong to us
Is financial fairplay going to retard the growth of clubs or improve it?

I think the former is going to be the case.
 

MagIX

Senior Member
The statement of GdS, Barca loss 72.9 mio, is old (year 2010).

2011:
"Barcelona made a smaller loss than expected last season and are confident of returning to profit in the 2011-12 campaign after two years of deficits, vice-president for economic affairs Javier Faus has said.

The Spanish and European champions posted a pre-tax loss of 9.3 million euros (£8.2m) in the year to the end of June, less than half the 21.4 million euros expected and down from 83 million euros in the year-earlier period, Faus said.

Winning the Champions League, the club's new sponsorship deal with Qatar Foundation, a strong turnout at the Camp Nou stadium and a surge in visitors to the club's museum had helped trim the deficit, he added.

"Our obligation is to make a profit from next season and we will do that," he said. "For the first time in two years we will present a budget that foresees profit."

In a separate statement on their website, Barca said the sales of players (FUCKING)Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Dmytro Chygrynskiy and Martin Caceres for much less than they cost had contributed to losses of 44.2 million euros, without which the club would have posted a pre-tax profit of 33.5 million".
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/26072011/58/la-liga-barca-report-smaller-loss-expected.html
 

adil_909

New member
yeah the wages we are paying are insane. i don't think any of the players would leave if they were making 3/4 of what they are now - they are still playing for the best club in the world and are earning a TON of money.
 

Chainsaw

Killahead
yeah the wages we are paying are insane. i don't think any of the players would leave if they were making 3/4 of what they are now - they are still playing for the best club in the world and are earning a TON of money.

Inter is worse in this case. At least Barca pay big wages to the players who have big impact. They repay what they're earning. Unlike Inter who pay for alot of deadwoods in the team, who don't even have half the impact for what they earn.
 

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