European Super League

[Porque]

That’s true; the SL “could” in essence redefine who the big guns are! The question is if smaller teams (Porto, Basel, etc), who finish in mid-table in the SL, would earn that much more than they do right now! Also… who’s to say that UEFA doesn’t increase the prize money to make it more lucrative for the big guns to remain? Every action has a response… so to speak.

Finally, what makes the CL appealing to me is facing other big clubs: Arsenal, Manchester City, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, etc. That won’t exist if other big clubs don’t join in. To assume that FC Porto will suddenly turn into Bayern Munich is far-fetched. In my opinion, in order for it to work, big clubs (not all) need to be onboard. Or… start the SL and continue to compete in the CL.

But Sure… follow da money. But if fewer people tune in because it’s always FC Barca vs FC Basel/Young Boys, it may not even result in more money?

The question also is what type of rights drop would CL have without half the top teams?

The elephant in the room is that UEFA as a governing body shouldn't really be running the Champions League to begin with. Sure in the development stages then setting the structure of European competition is all well and good, but then there comes a stage where the commercial potential of a property exceeds the abilities of a governing body. This is where the clubs are coming from and the fact that the EPL clubs WERE on board supports that there was previously alot of money left on the table.

It's ironic that the British government is pushing through legislation to ban their clubs inclusion while a) they privatized their Premier League and b) actively support petro-dollar investment into their league.

The more I think about a Super League the more unlikely I think it is to get off the ground. Way too many many moving parts need to come into play and not strong enough backing. Sure if the Saudi state was behind it then maybe you could get it off the ground, but their interest is moving IPs and events into the Saudi Kingdom.

But the key detail is that UEFA can not ban, sanction or impede teams competing in a SL. And that's the huge win.

It means that if SL say "ok we are going to run an inaugural prototype edition with the 16 highest places teams in Europe invited, this is the prize money for entering" that UEFA can't ban teams that decide to enter.

And that's probably the best route of getting this working. Getting 16 teams who are willing to not compete 1 season in the CL and enter the SL. Forget the English sides and see who accepts.

Then from there build the pyramid.

 

[Porque]

Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis has welcomed the ruling of the EU Court of Justice on the Super League.

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REal Madrid, Barcelona, Napoli.

We move.

 

[Morten]

PSG statement :

As a proud European institution, PSG supports the principles of the European Sports Model, upholding values of open competition, inclusiveness, and working with all recognised stakeholders of European football – most importantly for the fans and players, who are the heartbeat of football."

 

[Porque]

PSG statement :

As a proud European institution, PSG supports the principles of the European Sports Model, upholding values of open competition, inclusiveness, and working with all recognised stakeholders of European football – most importantly for the fans and players, who are the heartbeat of football."

It's ok. Marseille will join. Oh la la.

 

[Morten]

It's ok. Marseille will join. Oh la la.

They are a bigger team than PSG anyway, imagine actually winning the UCL.

 

[delancey]

The question also is what type of rights drop would CL have without half the top teams?

The elephant in the room is that UEFA as a governing body shouldn't really be running the Champions League to begin with. Sure in the development stages then setting the structure of European competition is all well and good, but then there comes a stage where the commercial potential of a property exceeds the abilities of a governing body. This is where the clubs are coming from and the fact that the EPL clubs WERE on board supports that there was previously alot of money left on the table.

It's ironic that the British government is pushing through legislation to ban their clubs inclusion while a) they privatized their Premier League and b) actively support petro-dollar investment into their league.

The more I think about a Super League the more unlikely I think it is to get off the ground. Way too many many moving parts need to come into play and not strong enough backing. Sure if the Saudi state was behind it then maybe you could get it off the ground, but their interest is moving IPs and events into the Saudi Kingdom.

But the key detail is that UEFA can not ban, sanction or impede teams competing in a SL. And that's the huge win.

It means that if SL say "ok we are going to run an inaugural prototype edition with the 16 highest places teams in Europe invited, this is the prize money for entering" that UEFA can't ban teams that decide to enter.

And that's probably the best route of getting this working. Getting 16 teams who are willing to not compete 1 season in the CL and enter the SL. Forget the English sides and see who accepts.

Then from there build the pyramid.

That’s true, and who’s to say that we couldn’t compete in both the SL and CL!

I just wouldn’t want us to abandon the CL for the SL (as long as the big guns aren’t participating).

How much profit does UEFA keep for itself?

 

[delancey]

It's ok. Marseille will join. Oh la la.

Oo La La 😁

 

[Horatio]

Haven’t read too much into it but I trust you guys to make the right call.

 

[Windhook]

Ceferin:

I watched the so-called presentation of A22. It’s hard to decide if you should be shocked or amused by the show. Even more closed than the 2021 edition that everyone rejected.

We will not try to stop them. They can create whatever they want. I hope they start their fantastic competition as soon as possible, with two clubs. I hope they know what they are doing but I am not so sure about that.

Ceferin also addressed my earlier question on Girona and Atalanta winning La Liga/Serie A - they will join Tier 3 of the tournament.

 

[Barcaman]

As I said the last time: Florentino is right. Young people are not that interested in football as entertainment industry changed. Also, gap between EPL money and the rest is a big danger.

We need this Superleague or some other format where Barca's popularity would translate in revenue.

 

[Givenchy]

Dreams can't be buy!

 

[Morten]

Statement from Bayern saying something along the lines of its their duty to strengthen domestic leagues, not weakening them, hence against ESL.

ESL will probably weaken the domestic leagues, but this coming from Bayern is a bit funny, considering they have absolute monopoly on league titles in Bundesliga these days.

That said, rest of Bundesliga isn't interested as of yet either, so they do kinda speak for rest of the league here.

 

[Messi983]

Why would ESL weaken domestic leagues? If anything clubs should improve if given more money.

Either way, feck Bayernliga clubs

 

[Porque]

Dortmund also released a statement against the Super League at the same time as Bayern


Not even joking.

 

[Neeraj]

None of these statements matter. Clubs are covering their assess for now. Money always talks in the end. If the super league actually kicks off (which I don't think will happen) the same clubs will be sliding into the ESL DMs like simps.

Epl may be an exemption cause they might legally not be allowed to do so.