Ronald Koeman

Vilarrubi

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Funny how no1 mentions that he ressurrected Dutch national team from the abyss , I guess that doesnt fit your narrative.

Also got Southamption 7th and 6th (Europa League) in the league only 2 years after they got promoted.


Seriously though I don't think what he's done before as a manager has much implication on how he'll be at Barca, it's unknown at this point. Whole different dynamic managing Barca.
 

AjaxAmsterdam

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Also read alot of BS that his tenure at Southampton was crap and he bought bad players there which is just a flat out lie unless you consider buying Sadio Mane and Van Dijk and Tadic as bad buys.

Ye his tenure at Everton and Valencia was crap thats why I also am doubtfull but just ignoring halve of his work to fit your narrative is silly.
 

AjaxAmsterdam

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Also got Southamption 7th and 6th (Europa League) in the league only 2 years after they got promoted.


Seriously though I don't think what he's done before as a manager has much implication on how he'll be at Barca, it's unknown at this point. Whole different dynamic managing Barca.

Ye when you visit Southampton forum you actually see posts that still miss that time since they gone downwards ever since
 

jairzinho

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Too early to judge him even though I dont like his idea of playing Memphis as striker. Rijkaard was a nobody coach before he came here.
 

malvolio

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Funny how no1 mentions that he ressurrected Dutch national team from the abyss , I guess that doesnt fit your narrative.

so he qualified for euro 2020(21), a competitiion with 10 groups in the qualifiers. and he was runner-up in a glorified friendly competition.

talk about resurrection of dutch football. you make it out like he won something.
 

AjaxAmsterdam

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so he qualified for euro 2020(21), a competitiion with 10 groups in the qualifiers. and he was runner-up in a glorified friendly competition.

talk about resurrection of dutch football. you make it out like he won something.

Cruyff never won anyth with national team and his totall football in the 70s so he is a failure too?? If you use winning is barometer then there is no hope for Dutch football we are a minnow in comparison to the bigger nations.

And yeah that friendly tournement meant nothing to you but it did to us since we just came out of our darkest time since the early 80s so it has given us a lil hope back.
 
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malvolio

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Cruyff never won anyth with national team and his totall football in the 70s so he is a failure too?? If you use winning is barometer then there is no hope for Dutch football we are a minnow in comparison to the bigger nations.

holland did pretty well in football history, for a nation of that size.

it's not about just winning, but koemann didn't even finish in the semis/quarters of a euro or WC.
 

AjaxAmsterdam

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holland did pretty well in football history, for a nation of that size.

it's not about just winning, but koemann didn't even finish in the semis/quarters of a euro or WC.

Ye thats how bad we were we didnt even qualify for those. There was no hope every1 here was negative bout dutch team and then Koeman became coach and that glorified friednly tournement began putting us in a group with Germany and France,
as you can imagine expectations were at an all time low at this point and he managed to top the group.

Now Im not saying this is all cus of the great Koeman cus fact is Ajax was in a lift and if you combine those players with the likes of van Dijk you got a halve decent team. But my point is dont underestimate what that meant generally for the Dutch fans.
 

malvolio

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Ye thats how bad we were we didnt even qualify for those. There was no hope every1 here was negative bout dutch team and then Koeman became coach and that glorified friednly tournement began putting us in a group with Germany and France,
as you can imagine expectations were at an all time low at this point and he managed to top the group.

Now Im not saying this is all cus of the great Koeman cus fact is Ajax was in a lift and if you combine those players with the likes of van Dijk you got a halve decent team. But my point is dont underestimate what that meant generally for the Dutch fans.

I really don't care what it meant to Dutch people/fans.

But I do underestimate these so called achievements in regards to what he can do here
 

AjaxAmsterdam

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I really don't care what it meant to Dutch people/fans.

But I do underestimate these so called achievements in regards to what he can do here

Well Im not that hopefull either bout what he can do cus he has been a 50/50 club manager at best and the situation here is far from ideal for him to succeed.

The point I was trying to make earlier is how people are cherry picking stats like they talk bout how he mismanaged transfers in Everton and not mention his Southampton transfers (mane,vandijk,tadic).
 
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FC433

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Very excited for our upcoming match. Cannot wait!

Hopefully we do not see Griezmann, Messi, and Coutinho play together very often. One of them should be on the bench.
 

FC433

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I agree. I feel that what is going to happen too, unfortunately. However, If that was going to be the case, I would like to see Coutinho play as a LW rather than Griezmann as a RW.
 

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