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Andresito

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Could see Arbeloa getting sacked if they don't win tomorrow.
No way, and then do what?

Think they might be ok with this as a transition period without trophies. Can't imagine they expect a coach like Arbeloa to miraculously lead this team to titles short term.
 

GloryHunter 007

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Real Madrid XI: Courtois, Valverde, Asencio, Huijsen, Carreras, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Bellingham, Gonzalo, Mbappe, Vini Jr
Suplentes : F. Gonzalez, Mestre, Carvajal, Alaba, Guler, Ceballos, F. Garcia, Mastantuono, Cestero, D. Jimenez, Palacios, Leiva

Full strength 11 or close enough but bench is lacklustre.
4-0
 

serghei

Senior Member
Del Bosque won 9th at Hampden in 2002 and they sacked him lol.

Yep. Capello won the league and got sacked. Casillas sold after winning CL. Ronaldo sold. And so on.

You win CL as a main player at Barcelona you get carte blanche to be shit for 4-5 years because you were great at some point 3 years ago.
 

serghei

Senior Member
It's not too much. It's the only way and very fair. You get paid in the present huge wages for what you did in the past? This is what is moronic.

All Barca legends got paid more as they got more shite. Fucking hilarious to pay legends more money in 2020s than in 2011.

Pique is best example. Elite 2009-11. Bad in 2012-2014. Good in 2015, ok in 2016, shite ever since. Retired after 7 more years. A joke.
 

GloryHunter 007

Well-known member
It's not too much. It's the only way and very fair. You get paid in the present huge wages for what you did in the past? This is what is moronic.

All Barca legends got paid more as they got more shite.
dont those players get credit though for their past wins etc? Who fires their coach voluntarily after constantly delivering huge trophies?

Barca won 4 in 10, everything was clicking and then they killed themselves with overpaying for flops, huge wage as you pointed out etc
 

serghei

Senior Member
dont those players get credit though for their past wins etc? Who fires their coach voluntarily after constantly delivering huge trophies?

Barca won 4 in 10, everything was clicking and then they killed themselves with overpaying for flops, huge wage as you pointed out etc

Because Barca is not as big of a club as Madrid. You see Madrid as the definitive elite club, and Barcelona as the artistic huge highs low lows club. Madrid is more successful for a reason.

People that support and are drawn to Barca are at least partial to the romanticist aspects of life. Madrid is the more effective model and the fanbase is a big reason for this.

Barca fans are somewhat of a juxtaposition to Federer fans, both value aesthethics a huge lot. I am one of those. For me Barcelona will always be the best, because they pursue that entire ideal package, but on logical terms it is not the best or the most reliable approach.

Being idealist by nature, you always look at what other parties do better and are drawn to that as well.
 

GloryHunter 007

Well-known member
Because Barca is not as big of a club as Madrid. You see Madrid as the definitive elite club, and Barcelona as the artistic huge highs low lows club. Madrid is more successful for a reason.

People that support and are drawn to Barca are at least partial to the romanticist aspects of life. Madrid is the more effective model and the fanbase is a big reason for this.

Barca fans are somewhat of a juxtaposition to Federer fans, both value aesthethics a huge lot. I am one of those. For me Barcelona will always be the best, because they pursue that entire ideal package, but on logical terms it is not the best or the most reliable approach.
Well, Barca is top 5 club ever.

Real Madrid is real madrid, others are just clubs.

But Barca from 2006 to 2015 won more than 99 percent of teams win in their history.

They are just more ruthless with their icons, thats mostly all there is to it.
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
Well, Barca is top 5 club ever.

Real Madrid is real madrid, others are just clubs.

But Barca from 2006 to 2015 won more than 99 percent of teams win in their history.

They are just more ruthless with their icons, thats mostly all there is to it.
Real madrid is biggest throphy cabinet. Barcelona is the reason why football evolves. Real witout Barca is nothing, and vice versa
 

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