serghei
Senior Member
Sugardaddy club. Glazers are filthy rich.
Raphael Varane
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Sugardaddy club. Glazers are filthy rich.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
True. Things are going to shitter for LaLoga. We are on same level as Italy, Germany and France now.
And those leagues seem to have more exciting young players.
Spanish league needs to wake up..
Sterlingfan2000
Active member
United casually double Varane Salary. That's the reason why Varane left.
La Liga does seem weak now...
France could end up being the biggest rival to the PL soon, they produce the best talent and have the richest club in the world (PSG), there's talks the Saudis who were after Newcastle may turn their attention to Marseille.. if that happens then they would probably blow even PSG out of the water with their spending power.
France could end up being the biggest rival to the PL soon, they produce the best talent and have the richest club in the world (PSG), there's talks the Saudis who were after Newcastle may turn their attention to Marseille.. if that happens then they would probably blow even PSG out of the water with their spending power.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Why no one wants to buy LaLiga team? We need one sugar daddy team.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Which club do you think big owners would buy?
Spain lacks that big cities they can buy club that represent the City, the way England have.
Remember that there is 5 clubs from London in EPL for example (6 when Fulham qualifies), another 4 from Liverpool and Manchester. last season 50% of the league were from 3 cities.
Now compare it to Spain?
Villarreal is one of the best club in Spain past 2 decades and it is a city of 50K or so.
Barca, RM, Bilbao & Osasona are state/fan owned and will be difficult to challenge them where they are. Lim had decent project initially and then decided to destroy Valancia.
Atletico has good ownership tbf
Which clubs could be for sale for sugar dady? The ones I can think of is Espanyol, Betis, maybe Seville? Or Valancia/Atletico getting sold again
El Gato
Villarato!
Sugar daddies don't invest in Spain because there's just not as much tradition and interest causing stadia to be regularly full like they have been for decades in the UK. Stability of business attracts investors. The likes of Malaga and many others that were tried as such projects will fail when it's clear fans are not in it for the long haul.
Best you could try is somewhere like Bilbao or Sociedad. Fan owned and will remain so though
Best you could try is somewhere like Bilbao or Sociedad. Fan owned and will remain so though
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FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Isn't Espanyol owner Asian or am I confusing it with someone else. Good point about the membership. That takes out few clubs already.
Valencia would be good choice though. Great history, pretty big city and they want owner change desperately..
Valencia would be good choice though. Great history, pretty big city and they want owner change desperately..
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
I don't think it is necessarily about big cities. Sure London is way above Madrid or Barcelona but other cities in the UK such as Manchester and Liverpool etc.? Nah.
Overall Spain is just not as attractive as England or the UK in general when it comes to conducting business and everything commercially speaking. In Britain the business environment is a lot friendlier to foreign investment and there are a lot more foreign billionaires and millionaires etc. finding a second home in London than anywhere else in Europe. Also, the advantages of the EPL that we talked about many times before (history, tradition, competitiveness of the league, marketing etc.) make owning English clubs more visible, attractive and downright more profitable (think about the big and evenly-sliced EPL TV deal alone, even for the smaller clubs) than owning clubs in Spain and other European leagues. Britain is far ahead of everybody else in that regard.
In Spain the biggest and best clubs like us and Real Madrid are off for picking. The conglomerate or the group that owns Atletico Madrid seems to be doing fine, they just refinanced 300m of their debt and recently got 180m or so of capital injected to their coffer. You do have sugar daddies like Al Thani who owns Malaga CF and Peter Lim who owns Valencia but they have not been blessings to those clubs. And you have smaller clubs like Espanyol and Granada etc. owned by foreign rich guys but they seem to be more content with staying afloat and not investing heavily with a vision to grow those clubs into something much bigger.
Just like in any investment, sugar daddies/investors etc. have to answer the question "what is in it for me?" and it seems owning football clubs in Spain doesn't yield that big of return.
Overall Spain is just not as attractive as England or the UK in general when it comes to conducting business and everything commercially speaking. In Britain the business environment is a lot friendlier to foreign investment and there are a lot more foreign billionaires and millionaires etc. finding a second home in London than anywhere else in Europe. Also, the advantages of the EPL that we talked about many times before (history, tradition, competitiveness of the league, marketing etc.) make owning English clubs more visible, attractive and downright more profitable (think about the big and evenly-sliced EPL TV deal alone, even for the smaller clubs) than owning clubs in Spain and other European leagues. Britain is far ahead of everybody else in that regard.
In Spain the biggest and best clubs like us and Real Madrid are off for picking. The conglomerate or the group that owns Atletico Madrid seems to be doing fine, they just refinanced 300m of their debt and recently got 180m or so of capital injected to their coffer. You do have sugar daddies like Al Thani who owns Malaga CF and Peter Lim who owns Valencia but they have not been blessings to those clubs. And you have smaller clubs like Espanyol and Granada etc. owned by foreign rich guys but they seem to be more content with staying afloat and not investing heavily with a vision to grow those clubs into something much bigger.
Just like in any investment, sugar daddies/investors etc. have to answer the question "what is in it for me?" and it seems owning football clubs in Spain doesn't yield that big of return.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Espanyol is owned by Chen Yansheng, a Chinese billionaire who heads the Rastar group. Compared to guys like Lim and Al-Thani, he has been pretty good actually, steadfastly investing in Espanyol even when they relegated to Segunda and recently cleared off most of Espanyol's debt. From what I read the Catalan media seem to like him and rate his job at Espanyol rather highly, he doesn't seem to be looking for a quick profit and walk, he looks like he is in for the long haul.
That said, I don't think he is ambitious or crazy enough to splash a lot of money on Espanyol (they are subject to La Liga's salary cap just like we are and I believe they currently have a similar problems of not being able to sign new players because of it) to grow it into something much bigger, like a legitimate equal of us etc.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Not as much money to make, influential people to influence in Spain as in the UK.
It's 50% a hobby/actual interest
50% business + politics
The latter part is nonexistent or not worth it or rather useless in Spain which is a nice holiday country, but don't exert much influence nor have major corporations, banks and others with HQs located there.
It's 50% a hobby/actual interest
50% business + politics
The latter part is nonexistent or not worth it or rather useless in Spain which is a nice holiday country, but don't exert much influence nor have major corporations, banks and others with HQs located there.
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