Premier League 24/25

Who will win?


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    38

Maradona37

Well-known member
Most supported club on reddit only means it has most braindead americans who have nothing to do with football following it sometimes because their great grandpa lived in Manchester or something like that
Plus the general level of football knowledge on reddit is appalling. Especially r/soccer and r/PremierLeague.

And unlike King Leo, who is American but comes across as European in talking and understanding, these guys talk like Americans constantly using phrases like 'this guy is beast, bro'
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Liverpool being more successful doesn't mean United still aren't bigger.

Biggest fanbase in the world, most talked about club in the world, most supported club on reddit, and biggest online club forum is redcafe.
Honestly, we are ahead in the things that I care about. I care about CL, PL and cups. I care about the romance of Liverpool FC.

Even when we were crap I loved supporting the club.

I don't care if Yanited, Barca and Real have more fans. I wouldn't like supporting the most popular clubs anyways.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Man Utd biggest club in the world because of the time period the PL was commercialized globally.

Their dominance, or rather position in the English and European elite only really ended a decade or just under a decade ago, so anyone above the age of 18 will still see them as a big club.

Anything under that, which is not the redditors or forumers age groups, and those guys will be all in on Man City, Liverpool or whatever and not be in on Man Utd unless groomed by their parents (that sounds wrong, uff).

They don't sort themselves out and in a decade time they will be seen like how Liverpool were in the 90s by the new generation.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Man Utd biggest club in the world because of the time period the PL was commercialized globally.

Their dominance, or rather position in the English and European elite only really ended a decade or just under a decade ago, so anyone above the age of 18 will still see them as a big club.

Anything under that, which is not the redditors or forumers age groups, and those guys will be all in on Man City, Liverpool or whatever and not be in on Man Utd unless groomed by their parents (that sounds wrong, uff).

They don't sort themselves out and in a decade time they will be seen like how Liverpool were in the 90s by the new generation.
Yeah they capitalised when football was entering the satellite TV era, when the CL and PL were formed/rebranded (I have some conspiracy theories that the PL were in bed with United, Scudamore even said the PL brand needs a strong United) and then they solidified that in the 2000s with the internet era and social media and whoring themselves out to Asia and Africa.

Now they are wank, though. And look like never getting back.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Yeah they capitalised when football was entering the satellite TV era, when the CL and PL were formed/rebranded (I have some conspiracy theories that the PL were in bed with United, Scudamore even said the PL brand needs a strong United) and then they solidified that in the 2000s with the internet era and social media and whoring themselves out to Asia and Africa.

Now they are wank, though. And look like never getting back.

That's an interesting theory. You can't deny their refereeing favouratism back then for example.

They had a chance get back though. When Ronaldo returned, after dominating Europe with Madrid, and like you mentioned, says the facilities aren't up to scratch, they should have been on that and revamped the setup. It's much cheaper than one average signing fee.

And will still have more if their new stadium project comes to frution and there's no development hiccups.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
That's an interesting theory. You can't deny their refereeing favouratism back then for example.

They had a chance get back though. When Ronaldo returned, after dominating Europe with Madrid, and like you mentioned, says the facilities aren't up to scratch, they should have been on that and revamped the setup. It's much cheaper than one average signing fee.

And will still have more if their new stadium project comes to frution and there's no development hiccups.
It's just very suspect that Ferguson struggled badly for years and then all of a sudden they started dominating right from 1992 and the inaugural PL season. They got a lot of favours from referees (even though their delusional fans deny it) and some of the pressure that bully Ferguson put on officials was scandalous. They were often allowed to kick teams off the park too.

I don't think the problem is really their facilities. Ronaldo was miles past it when he went back in 2021 - said it was a mistake at the time. He had been three years removed from the three in a row with Real Madrid. Better facilities would help, but that clown Ronaldo didn't care about the club - had Rangnick been playing him every week he'd have been perfectly happy. He was just raging he'd been dropped and lashed out. Updating the jacuzzi and sorting their gym isn't gonna fix their problem of signing poor technical and physical footballers. You need the right ingredients in terms of players, then you need facilities.

Look at Rangers - got a grea training ground in Murray Park years ago but have barely brought through a decent player. Why? Because facilities mean absolutely fuck all if you don't have the right players, coaches and intelligent people to get the best from those facilities.

Let's hope their new stadium doesn't - it's a disgrace they want the tax payer to pay for it in these belt tightening moments. Plus they're just fucked anyway - the EL has screwed their money plans, they have £300m outstanding payments on transfers, they lose money for not being in the CL in terms of prize and participation money and gate recepits and other stuff from matchdays.

Their reckless spending has finally caught up with them. And even if they somehow recover, INEOS are absolutely clueless and will get the wrong players anyway. They're already spent a fortune on clowns like Ugarte, De Ligt, Zirkzee and Dorgu, and will never identify intelligent targets.

I mean they spend almost £30m on Dorgu. Anyone can tell he's fucking hopeless. Spending that sort of money on a wing or full back who personifies mediocrity? This isn't a serious club.
 

Rassvet

Well-known member
Man Utd biggest club in the world because of the time period the PL was commercialized globally.

Their dominance, or rather position in the English and European elite only really ended a decade or just under a decade ago, so anyone above the age of 18 will still see them as a big club.

Anything under that, which is not the redditors or forumers age groups, and those guys will be all in on Man City, Liverpool or whatever and not be in on Man Utd unless groomed by their parents (that sounds wrong, uff).

They don't sort themselves out and in a decade time they will be seen like how Liverpool were in the 90s by the new generation.
Agree on first part but disagree on second. They're the Cowboys or Notre Dame of soccer where they had success and their brand blew up at the right time. Cowboys have been bad for longer but are still a huge brand and most valuable sports team by a distance.


Liverpool didn't get nearly the same clout during their bad years. Outside of the ownership issue and Suarez's biting/racism, Liverpool and their struggles weren't a leading story year round the way it is with United of late.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Absolutely hate the Championship playoffs when you got a side with a 90 point season missing out promotion against a side with 14 points less in the league. And sometimes it is more.

After 46 league games, fuck having playoffs.
 

Windhook

Well-known member
The parachute payments of Premier League to relegated teams created this environment, that same teams usually who lose their elite status get promoted the next year.

I lost track on how many times Burnley and Sheff Utd got promoted and relegated in recent years.
 

Porque

Senior Member
The parachute payments of Premier League to relegated teams created this environment, that same teams usually who lose their elite status get promoted the next year.

I lost track on how many times Burnley and Sheff Utd got promoted and relegated in recent years.

That Sunderland owner though. Always love to see a guy who works hard and makes it from nothing, and isn't born into it.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
The parachute payments of Premier League to relegated teams created this environment, that same teams usually who lose their elite status get promoted the next year.

I lost track on how many times Burnley and Sheff Utd got promoted and relegated in recent years.
Norwich were the ultimate yo-yo club for a while, but they haven't been promoted for several years.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Didn't know it was another Dreyfus.:lol:

*Franch Accant*

Un I touch down in zee Angurlund an I sed to my daddy, "Papa" I want to go to ze shittest part of Anglerland and buy a footbol club. I want to raise ze stature of not just this team to Le Premiership, but ze whole City. An through this research we found le Sunderland, an absolute shithole. Le Merde de la merde. But now we have brought them to Le crem de la Prem, we will change this peasants city into le nouveau Paris"

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Probably how it went down.
 

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