Philipp Lahm
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Maradona37
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How does he rate next to Alves?
Prefer Alves myself, but Lahm was one of the best full-backs ever, and played well in midfield too.
I think Kimmich has been great at times, but he's like the poor man's Lahm.
Prefer Alves myself, but Lahm was one of the best full-backs ever, and played well in midfield too.
I think Kimmich has been great at times, but he's like the poor man's Lahm.
Temptation
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One of the greatest Full Backs of all time. Period.
Also one of the highest Football IQs and cleanest players ever.
I rate him higher than Alves. Cafu is above Alves too.
You can't be the greatest Right Back of all time if Maicon benches you fairly in your prime (everybody agreed with the decision because Prime Maicon was an absolute animal). It's not like Southgate benched Alves unfairly because he's an idiot lol. He was benched fairly because Maicon was clearly better in that period.
Also one of the highest Football IQs and cleanest players ever.
I rate him higher than Alves. Cafu is above Alves too.
You can't be the greatest Right Back of all time if Maicon benches you fairly in your prime (everybody agreed with the decision because Prime Maicon was an absolute animal). It's not like Southgate benched Alves unfairly because he's an idiot lol. He was benched fairly because Maicon was clearly better in that period.
Maradona37
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Fair enough. I agree Maicon was better than Alves for Brazil in the period 2008-2011 or whatever.
Lahm was exceptional.
Lahm was exceptional.
Temptation
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Cafu did a lot more at Roma than Alves did at Sevilla.
Lahm was damn good at Stuttgart in the League and CL too in his loan spell.
Lahm was damn good at Stuttgart in the League and CL too in his loan spell.
jamrock
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The same Roma with Walter the wall Samuel, totti, Batistuta even motella?
Yea okay lol
Won't even mention lahm at Stuttgart.
When someone can name a FB that was arguably his teams best player in back to back E.L titles, we can talk about maicon and lahm.
Then you add on what he did at Barca and it's like what are we even talking about?.
The fact that Brazil didn't win a WC was probably because the idiot coach thought Maicon was a better fit than Alves, not really man other issues but still..
Yea okay lol
Won't even mention lahm at Stuttgart.
When someone can name a FB that was arguably his teams best player in back to back E.L titles, we can talk about maicon and lahm.
Then you add on what he did at Barca and it's like what are we even talking about?.
The fact that Brazil didn't win a WC was probably because the idiot coach thought Maicon was a better fit than Alves, not really man other issues but still..
jamrock
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I don't think people fully understand who dani Alves was, words were said by serious people who actually watch football that has never been said about any other FB that I can remember
He surpassed being compared to fullbacks and was just one of the best players in the world period, at a time of peak Messi and Ronald.
www.theguardian.com
This season he was probably the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world for the majority of the season.
www.theguardian.com
With Sevilla he was arguably the best player in la Liga for a majority of the season.
Prime dani alves surpasses just fullbacks.
When talking about
Dani Alves
Busquet
Xavi
Iniesta
Messi
Come correct, these people don't sit at the table they sit above it, with very few others.
He surpassed being compared to fullbacks and was just one of the best players in the world period, at a time of peak Messi and Ronald.
Dani Alves: the best player in the world (well, after Leo Messi)
Sid Lowe: He might only be a right-back, but Barcelona's Dani Alves would be the world's best player if it wasn't for a certain Argentinian
www.theguardian.com
This season he was probably the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world for the majority of the season.
Football: hats off to awesome Alves as Sevilla blow title race wide open
La Liga: Sevilla's Dani Alves is no ordinary right-back, something Barça found out to their cost in a thrilling 2-1 defeat at the weekend, reports Sid Lowe.
www.theguardian.com
With Sevilla he was arguably the best player in la Liga for a majority of the season.
Prime dani alves surpasses just fullbacks.
When talking about
Dani Alves
Busquet
Xavi
Iniesta
Messi
Come correct, these people don't sit at the table they sit above it, with very few others.
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Temptation
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Yet Lahm is more complete and very successfully played numerous positions like LB, DM, CM and even CB a few times.
Alves had Ballon d or winners and wonderkids in the biggest Football powerhouse National Team alongside him and yet Lahm was way better for Germany.
Flashy Brazilians will always have better PR than Efficient Germans but Lahm is one of the most intelligent players to ever play the sport. Alves certainly isn't.... on and off the pitch.
Lahm had immense tactical discipline, consistency, versatility and brilliant technical ability. Pep Guardiola doesn't move you to midfield if you don't have exceptional technical ability, spacial awareness and Football IQ.
Lahm also had tremendous leadership qualities while Alves was anything but a leader.
Prime Dani Alves couldn't even surpass or bench Prime Maicon lmao.
Lahm anyday.
Alves had Ballon d or winners and wonderkids in the biggest Football powerhouse National Team alongside him and yet Lahm was way better for Germany.
Flashy Brazilians will always have better PR than Efficient Germans but Lahm is one of the most intelligent players to ever play the sport. Alves certainly isn't.... on and off the pitch.
Lahm had immense tactical discipline, consistency, versatility and brilliant technical ability. Pep Guardiola doesn't move you to midfield if you don't have exceptional technical ability, spacial awareness and Football IQ.
Lahm also had tremendous leadership qualities while Alves was anything but a leader.
Prime Dani Alves couldn't even surpass or bench Prime Maicon lmao.
Lahm anyday.
Maradona37
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I don't think there's need for heated debate. They're both two of the best full-backs ever. It depends what you value in a full-back. If you want a flying attacking full-back, Alves. If you want a smart and well-rounded, excellent at all phases of the game full-back. Lahm.
They both suited the teams they played for and that's why both had very successful careers.
They both suited the teams they played for and that's why both had very successful careers.
Temptation
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Imagine being known as one of the best tacklers and ball winners in the world regularly coming up against the best and fastest wingers and still having these records.
Lahm was different gravy.
Lahm was different gravy.
Temptation
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Bro trying to play the "Barca legend" card to get some support because he knows he has lost the argument.
Don't worry. I'm sure people here will back Alves. I'm sure people will try to gang up on me. They should. He's a Barca legend (although the club removed him from the list recently for personal reasons) and the fans are understandably attached to Alves because of some beautiful, emotional moments.
But Lahm will always be the more complete Footballer. Pep Guardiola/Mr Barcelona who is the closest thing to a modern day Cruyff and the greatest exponent of Barca DNA and tactics was so impressed with Lahm's intelligence, spacial awareness and technical ability that he moved him into midfield.
That along with Lahm's outstanding career with Germany and Dani's underwhelming Brazil career pretty much seals the deal.
This was fun. And I do respect Alves (as a player). But Cafu and Lahm were better. Peace. ✌🏻
"Pep Guardiola consistently praised Philipp Lahm, calling him one of the most fantastic and intelligent players he's ever coached, a special person in his life, and one of the best players he's ever seen. Guardiola highlighted Lahm's perfect understanding of the game, his versatility in playing multiple positions, and his exceptional character. He viewed it as a great honor to manage Lahm." 🐐
Don't worry. I'm sure people here will back Alves. I'm sure people will try to gang up on me. They should. He's a Barca legend (although the club removed him from the list recently for personal reasons) and the fans are understandably attached to Alves because of some beautiful, emotional moments.
But Lahm will always be the more complete Footballer. Pep Guardiola/Mr Barcelona who is the closest thing to a modern day Cruyff and the greatest exponent of Barca DNA and tactics was so impressed with Lahm's intelligence, spacial awareness and technical ability that he moved him into midfield.
That along with Lahm's outstanding career with Germany and Dani's underwhelming Brazil career pretty much seals the deal.
This was fun. And I do respect Alves (as a player). But Cafu and Lahm were better. Peace. ✌🏻
"Pep Guardiola consistently praised Philipp Lahm, calling him one of the most fantastic and intelligent players he's ever coached, a special person in his life, and one of the best players he's ever seen. Guardiola highlighted Lahm's perfect understanding of the game, his versatility in playing multiple positions, and his exceptional character. He viewed it as a great honor to manage Lahm." 🐐
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