Pele

Windhook

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"Done it before them" is overstatement.

Never seen clips of Pele dribbling at top speed with the ball glued at his boots like Messi, nor bombing the shit out of the ball like Roberto Carlos' curve against France in 1997, nor the Marseille roulette popularized by Maradona and Zidane (he's not the inventor obviously). The fact many after Pele applied his tricks is the reason this phrase to gain popularity. But Pele didn't invent all of them. He globalized them, the sport of football, joga bonito, the first football icon. Before him there were no superstars. That's why the whole world respects Pele and honours him.
 

Nazario1985

Senior Member
"Done it before them" is overstatement.

Never seen clips of Pele dribbling at top speed with the ball glued at his boots like Messi, nor bombing the shit out of the ball like Roberto Carlos' curve against France in 1997, nor the Marseille roulette popularized by Maradona and Zidane (he's not the inventor obviously). The fact many after Pele applied his tricks is the reason this phrase to gain popularity. But Pele didn't invent all of them. He globalized them, the sport of football, joga bonito, the first football icon. Before him there were no superstars. That's why the whole world respects Pele and honours him.

you can't compare two different eras that's stupid as hell.

Have you ever touched the 50's / 60's football ? did you see garrincha sending people to hospital with that ball ?

Same for other sports, the fastest man back them wont even qualify to the next Olympics

You have to compare relatively to each era.

In 50 years players today will seem so outdated and comes some big rain "never seen Messi do what a 18 years old is doing in 2073"

But the pioneers always have a special place no matter what, he dared do things out of the usual (with others but he was the most successful).

Players today have the best medicine/physicians offered to them, lives in palaces ...etc

Some huge names in the past struggling with the rent !
 
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JohnN

Senior Member
Yes, comparing eras so far apart has little meaning. But football has been in a pretty steady level since the start of this century. The meta has changed and will continue to do so, physical training and nutrition has improved but the difference from 2000 to 2020 is much smaller than 2000 to 1980 and astonishingly smaller than 1980 vs 1960.
Margin of improvement does get smaller as in all things.
 

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