Ousmane Dembélé

[Temptation]

If lampard and Iniesta both played in a front 3, then yes I would, but they didn't.

Lampard was a attacking midfielder player who played higher up than Iniesta, often just behind the main striker ( Drogba ).

Iniesta played deeper and was really more of a classic central midfielder, who wasn't expected to score as he always had 3 forwards ahead of him, something Chelsea did not.

People don't buy Dembele for his goals though.


He's a proper traditional winger.


People buy him for his exceptional ball carrying and chance creation.



This is the reason I think Dembele will never be an elite world class player. To be that you need numbers for sure(if you play in a forward line).


Numbers are important for midfielders(except for DMs and DLPs) too but you have to look at the role, context and surroundings much more. That doesn't excuse the weaknesses of certain offensive minded central midfielders to post a few G/As here and there in their careers though.

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

People don't buy Dembele for his goals though.


He's a proper traditional winger.


People buy him for his exceptional ball carrying and chance creation.



This is the reason I think Dembele will never be an elite world class player. To be that you need numbers for sure(if you play in a forward line).


Numbers are important for midfielders(except for DMs and DLPs) too but you have to look at the role, context and surroundings much more. That doesn't excuse the weaknesses of certain offensive minded central midfielders to post a few G/As here and there in their careers though.

It's true that Iniesta's lack of goals and assists is a slight negative on his career. That's why for a few years Wesley Sneijder was as good as him.

And also why Iniesta is a tier below the true GOAT midfielders, Platini and Zico.

 

[Temptation]

It's true that Iniesta's lack of goals and assists is a slight negative on his career. That's why for a few years Wesley Sneijder was as good as him.

And also why Iniesta is a tier below the true GOAT midfielders, Platini and Zico.

Doesn't help it when Xavi playing much deeper in the same teams gets consistently better numbers despite his role in the team..........

 

[KingLeo10]

You rate Lampard higher than Iniesta?

Poor bait.

Lampard played higher up the pitch and took penalties.

But you already knew this.

 

[Temptation]

Poor bait.

Lampard played higher up the pitch and took penalties.

But you already knew this.

You do get my point regarding Dembele though? He's not supposed to be a goalscorer..........not a numbers player. Just like Grealish and Foden who play LW/RW normally.

People don't buy Dembele for his goals though.


He's a proper traditional winger.


People buy him for his exceptional ball carrying and chance creation.



This is the reason I think Dembele will never be an elite world class player. To be that you need numbers for sure(if you play in a forward line).

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Dembele has talent and he is a good dude but at the end of the day goals and assists decide the matches and PSG needs a man except Mbappe who is able to score in big matches. It would be a different story if MSN would play, then Dembele could focus on creating chances but that's not the case

 

[KingLeo10]

Dembele has talent and he is a good dude but at the end of the day goals and assists decide the matches and PSG needs a man except Mbappe who is able to score in big matches. It would be a different story if MSN would play, then Dembele could focus on creating chances but that's not the case

Pretty much this.

 

[Temptation]

Dembele has talent and he is a good dude but at the end of the day goals and assists decide the matches and PSG needs a man except Mbappe who is able to score in big matches. It would be a different story if MSN would play, then Dembele could focus on creating chances but that's not the case

Dembele isn't meant to be the main man. He's always gonna be a sidekick kinda player.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Dembele isn't meant to be the main man. He's always gonna be a sidekick kinda player.

If he is satisfied being a sidekick player it's ok but if he wants to become one of the main men in a team who leads his team to Cl or EURO/WC he needs to go a level higher and improve his numbers otherwise PSG won't have a chance to win the cl, i dont trust Kolo or Asensio.

 

[soul24rage]

If he is satisfied being a sidekick player it's ok but if he wants to become one of the main men in a team who leads his team to Cl or EURO/WC he needs to go a level higher and improve his numbers otherwise PSG won't have a chance to win the cl, i dont trust Kolo or Asensio.

Barcola looks like a great talent.

Lucho already started life without Mbappe by playing Barcola on the LW and Mbappe as the ST.

 

[Nazario1985]

The only take I get from Dembouz move to PSG is that our medical staff is and was always a shamble.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Barcola looks like a great talent.

Lucho already started life without Mbappe by playing Barcola on the LW and Mbappe as the ST.

Yeah Barcola looks promising but he is young and his stats aren't great either. Whole PSG offense look crap in terms of scoring except Mbappeee

Barcloa: 25 matches, 3 goals

Kolo Muani: 27 matches, 9 goals

Asensio: 18 matches, 5 goals

Dembouz: 28 matches, 1 goal

Mbappe: 35 matches, 34 goals

 

[Birdy]

Dembele has talent and he is a good dude but at the end of the day goals and assists decide the matches and PSG needs a man except Mbappe who is able to score in big matches. It would be a different story if MSN would play, then Dembele could focus on creating chances but that's not the case

What you miss is that Mbappe won't be able to score if Dembele doesn't break the lines and give him the ball
His ability to create something out of nothing solely by his movement is phenomenal and WC
He bailed Xavi for as long as he stayed and concealed his lack of proper game-plan

 

[serghei]

Dembele is a good player. Just don't exaggerate and you have a point. But you are just insatiable and you push it until you make it seem he is some Salah player. He isn't.

He is dynamic and influences the game beyond direct goals and assists, most understand this, which is why most here were a bit bitter about his disappointing Barca exit. Because he injected dynamism in our game with his dribbling.

But there are better players out there that simply do more, at a higher level. That's all.

 

[CatalinR10]

Fucking lol at those Iniesta vs Lampard comparisons be put in the same place as discussing Dembele trying to prove a point.

Iniesta having ,,poor goal" scoring record is literally irrelevant because he was a godlike player , absolutely sensational , one of the best midfielders in history.

Guy has a man of the match in a World cup final , Euro final , CL final.

Has Dembele ever had a great match vs a top tier team, ever in his career ?